Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Shalom Show on television


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The result was   no consensus. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 19:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

The Shalom Show on television

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Non-notable cable TV show lacking GHits and GNEws of substance. No evidence that it is carried nationally or of notability.  ttonyb (talk) 15:52, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

DIRECTV: Nationwide -  in all 50 states  Ch. 366
 * Keep - Respectfully; there most certainly is evidence that it is carried nationally. The Shalom Show is on JLTV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Life_Television  This is evident by going on the www.jltv.tv website or: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DirecTV_channels_(United_States)Jewish Life Television is listed on channel 366 It is further evident by simply tuning into the Shalom Show on TV which is broadcast on the JLTV network on:

Time Warner Cable: Los Angeles and Southern California Ch. 177 Hudson Valley, CA Ch. 137 New York Ch. 120 New Jersey Ch. 120 San Antonio, TX Ch. 491 Comcast: South Florida Counties Ch. 239 Greater Boston, MA Ch. 196 Greater Houston, TX Ch. 268 Atlantic Broadband: Miami Beach & South Beach, FL Ch. 167 Bright House - Florida: Tampa Ch. 172 Orlando / Melbourne / Daytona Beach Ch. 165 Independent cable systems: Laguna Woods Digital TV Service, CA Ch. 210 Wainwright Cable - Norman Park, GA Ch. 99 Funston, GA Ch. 45

Notability concerns can be easily resolved by notable public figures who have been guests on the Shalom Show, including Dr. Abraham Fischler, the President Emeritus of Nova Southeastern University http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_S._Fischler He can serve as reference sources and can confirm and verify the substance of the entire article. Dr. Abraham Fischler has been guest on the Shalom Show many times over the years. One can see and confirm this by either seeing his appearances on the Shalom Show on TV during national broadcasts on the Jewish Life Television http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirecTV broadcasts on national DirecTV broadcast and also by viewing his interviews online at www.shalomshow.com. Furthermore there is a videotaped testimonial statement at: http://www.rcptv.com/ss/testimonial_video.htm in which one can see Prime Minister Itzhak Rabin, Dr. Abraham Fischler, in addition to Stan Chesley, the national president of the Jewish National Fund http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_M._Chesley Richard Peritz the shalom show founder and host can serve as a reference and source to confirm the validity of this article about his show.

Please assist me in correcting the formatting of this article to meet your specifications. Josephn18 (talk) 16:23, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment – All articles in Wikipedia must meet certain criteria for inclusion. Wikipedia based notability must been met in order for the article to remain in Wikipedia. Currently the article does not meet that criteria.  In addition, you as the author, have the burden of proof.  Just saying something is true does not establish notability using reliable sources.  If you say the subject is broadcast nationally, then you must provide a valid source that supports that statement in the article.  I have also asked that you not include personal information in any of your comments, but you have ignored the request.  Personal information may not be included anywhere in Wikipedia, including article pages, talk pages, articles for deletion, user pages, or user talk pages.  ttonyb  (talk) 16:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Burden of proof respectfully is addressed by the fact that notable public figures who have been guests on the Shalom Show, including Dr. Abraham Fischler, the President Emeritus of Nova Southeastern University http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_S._Fischler can serve as proof and reference sources and can confirm and verify the substance of the entire article. Dr. Abraham Fischler has been guest on the Shalom Show many times over the years. One can see and confirm this by either seeing his appearances on the Shalom Show on TV during national broadcasts on the Jewish Life Television http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirecTV broadcasts on national DirecTV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DirecTV_channels_(United_States) broadcast and also by viewing his interviews online at www.shalomshow.com. Furthermore there is a videotaped testimonial statement at: http://www.rcptv.com/ss/testimonial_video.htm in which one can see Prime Minister Itzhak Rabin, Dr. Abraham Fischler, in addition to Stan Chesley, the national president of the Jewish National Fund http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_M._Chesley Richard Peritz the shalom show founder and host can serve as a reference and source to confirm the validity of this article about his show.

I hope this addresses the burden of proof concern and I will very much appreciate your kind assistance in improving this article. Please do not delete it. The article is absolutely true in every detail but I'm not sure how to insert substantiating supportive information into the original article. Please assist. Thank you!Josephn18 (talk) 03:27, 28 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment – Reliable sources have to be independent of the article.  Providing a reference that provides a testimonial is not exactly independent.  In addition, just because a guest, who is defined as notable by Wikipedia, has been on the show, that appearance does not make the show notable.  As I explained to you before, notability is not inherited from others.  You still have the burden of  providing adequate references in the article.  As it stands, the article does not have adequate references.    ttonyb  (talk) 03:42, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:10, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Comment. If this article survives AfD, it should be moved to The Shalom Show. I have found at least one good source which I will add to the article. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:59, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * There are now three articles in the "External links" section. Besides those, I should note that there has also been some mainstream media coverage of Allen West's recent interview on the show, although that coverage mostly had to do with the controversial nature of West's statements and did not provide significant coverage of this television show: Minneapolis Star-Tribune, Atlanta Journal-Constitution. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:26, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
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