Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Snake and the Stallion


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) ‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ Geschichte (talk) 08:09, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

The Snake and the Stallion

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Besides being entirely or poorly unsourced, this does not assert ntoability, thus fails WP:GNG. SpacedFarmer (talk) 12:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Motorsport. SpacedFarmer (talk) 12:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  16:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The review notes: "If this were a film script, it would be rejected on the grounds of Stallone-grade realism shortfall. But it isn't. This is the true story of down-on-his-luck American Carroll Shelby's dramatically successful exploits as a racing team owner in the early 1960s. There isn't a great deal in the way of contemporary footage (although the surviving material is pleasingly evocative), so the bulk of the story is told by those who took part. Their narrative is an undiluted treat. Director Richard Symons ended up with far too much footage, so a second, outtake-rich disc is included. DVD extras can be superfluous frivolities - worthless junkets that tempt the unwitting to part with their cash. These, however, are every bit as compelling as the main documentary."   The article notes: "The Cobra Ferrari Wars movie is a classic tale of Texas-chicken- farmer-turned-American-sporting-hero versus Italian automotive aristocracy. Ten years in the making, the documentary tells the remarkable story of Carroll Shelby's mission to "nail Ferrari's ass," resulting in the fearsome Cobra -- possibly the most revered sports car of all time.  It made its way on to some TV screens shortly after its release in 2002 but then gathered dust until recently, when producer/ director Richard Symons got to work adding previously unseen footage and interviews.  Now a twin-set DVD version has been released for about $50. In addition to the original film, it includes three picture galleries, deleted scenes and six hours' worth of uncut transcripts of interviews with Shelby, giving a unique insight into the man as well as spilling the beans on back-door shenanigans/politics. Its fast-pace, 1960s-era soundtrack and split-screen scenes make it compelling viewing."   The article notes: "And so began the Cobra Ferrari wars. British director Richard Symons has spent over four years researching, filming and compiling unique, never-before-seen footage of this dramatic era in motor racing history. The Cobra Ferrari Wars documentary is produced to recapture the spirit of the 60's in its racing action, soundtrack and graphics and is a compelling tale of courage and dogged determination to be shown on BBC television this summer. The unique footage tells the story of how self-belief and circumstances combined to propel a bunch of Southern Californian hot rodders and their charismatic leader against incredible odds to wage war in Europe and give Enzo Ferrari the hiding of his life. ... For petrolheads and those intrigued by this titanic David and Goliath struggle The Cobra Ferrari Wars makes compelling viewing. The programme will be shown on BBC4 Digital on Monday, June 17, at 9.00pm (following the Le Mans racing weekend), and will migrate to BBC TV later. "  Less significant coverage:  The article notes: "Automotive history buffs will be interested in The Cobra Ferrari Wars, right, a documentary 10 years in the making, telling the story of Carroll Shelby's mission to beat Ferrari at Le Mans, resulting in the Cobra. Available for the first time on DVD, the pack includes the full broadcast film, three picture galleries and a lot of previously unseen footage. The set is available at selected specialist motoring shops."  <li> The article notes: "The Cobra Ferrari Wars: Without doubt the best racing documentary ever. Director Richard Symons spent four years researching and producing the story of how chicken farmer Carroll Shelby came to take on Enzo Ferrari and win. $59.95" </li> </ol></li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Cobra Ferrari Wars (also known as The Snake and the Stallion) to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 00:57, 13 May 2024 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * Keep: Sources presented by Cunard show the subject is notable. Thanks! - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)  16:52, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep in view of the multiple reliable sources coverage identified in this discussion by Cunard that together enables a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:50, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I will offer to call close to this nomination ASAP given Cunard's impressive work to improve the article which I was unable to find which led to this nomination. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpacedFarmer (talk • contribs)


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