Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Social Hierarchies of English Accents and Dialects


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was userfy (and delete redirect). bainer (talk) 03:09, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

The Social Hierarchies of English Accents and Dialects
Original research, or at the least an outline for a personal essay (with only one author in the edit history). The contents of what would eventually make up this article might also be found at American English regional differences and other similar articles. Delete. Parallel or Together ? 06:55, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOR. I couldn't find anything related to this topic; a few things about a similar subject with respect to different castes in India and their dialects, but that's about it. Peyna 07:02, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have left a note on Mbooth13's talk page to let her know that this article has been sent to AfD. She was the sole editor of the page in question. -Parallel or Together ? 07:08, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as above - Research proposals on WP?? JPD 10:31, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:POV. I can't see this ever being presented as a neutral argument.  Whilst it'd be interesting to find out about Accents and Dialects of the English language (particularly in England and United States, where they have the largest variation of accents of any country), suggesting that it has to do with race etc is just wrong.  Maybe, just maybe, we could consider rewriting it as a whole other title, whole other way of doing it, about accents and dialects full stop.  But nah, then we are starting over anyway.  There is nothing of value in that article.  Nothing to salvage. Zordrac  (talk) Wishy Washy  Darwikinian Eventualist 16:25, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: It's original research on a topic upon which there is massive scholarly research. British accents have long had class associations, and they still do.  In Australia, the British accent (as opposed to "Ozzie" accent) had a class marker.  In the United States, each region has a prestige dialect (e.g. Plantation Southern, Mid-Atlantic, Ivy, etc.).  These class hierarchies are persistent.  Furthermore, there have been new class dialects emerging, and some dialectology research suggests that regional accents themselves are becoming prestige markers (as there is an amalgamation of accents in the highly mobile middle class, leaving only the wealthy to grow up in one place and Black English as a universal "poor" accent).  So, in fact, there is a great deal to say -- too much, in fact -- that could be and should be heavily cited.  However, it isn't really encyclopedic so much as it would be scholarly.  Geogre 17:47, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Move to user page for the time being. Right now, it's just a truism and an outline.  I have every confidence that a valid, referenced, and encyclopedic article could indeed be written on the social status of various speech habits, and that there's enough here to warrant a separate article outside the broad overview of regional differences.  As it stands now, the page is rather short on actual information.  We should give the author every opportunity to finish it.  Smerdis of Tlön 17:51, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * move to user page - Basically I agree with Geogre's observations but Smerdis of Tlön's conclusion. It's plainly a work in progress on a massive subject, so give the author a chance to develop the article, cite other sources, to avoid the "original research" problem. With so much trivia around, it seems wrong to get rid of something serious too hastilyJameswilson 02:08, 6 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.