Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Socialist Crisis in France


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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 05:24, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

The Socialist Crisis in France

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Reads more like a political essay than an encyclopedic article, already covered by existing articles like Paris Commune, Dreyfus affair, etc. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 05:21, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge / Redirect over to Paris Commune since that's the proper article for the topic that's being covered. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:03, 4 September 2015 (UTC)


 * No, that's not a correct target. The Paris Commune was an incident from 1871, this piece is on the politics of 1899-1900. Carrite (talk) 05:40, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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 * Comment. The nominator is largely right in saying the article reads "like a political essay", but he (and the subsequent commenter) have not realised why. On close reading, the article is actually intended to be about a probably notable essay - or, rather, series of articles by Rosa Luxemburg, published in Die Neue Zeit in last 1900 and early 1901 and then collected and issued separately as a short book, on arguments then going on among French socialists about whether or not they should co-operate with "bourgeois" politicians in supporting Alfred Dreyfus, in defending the French Third Republic against perceived attacks from right-wing groups and in joining the French government to help with these aims. Luxemburg was firmly on the side of those opposing any such co-operation - she deals with earlier events like the Paris Commune, but only as background to current arguments at the time of writing. The articles, I understand, caused something of a sensation at the time, and the book later became something of a Marxist classic. The reactions to it, both immediately on publication and since then, have probably been significant enough to justify a standalone article - unfortunately, the article as it stands seems to be (somewhat confusedly) summarising the book rather than showing why we should regard it as notable. PWilkinson (talk) 13:11, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Unsourced original essay. Carrite (talk) 05:38, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - this appears to be a meta-essay: an essay or critique of a 115-year-old monograph. I say, start from scratch to get a stub. Bearian (talk) 02:08, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


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