Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Spaceship Martini


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Steven Martini. And then y'all can have an edit war there or whatever. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 14:05, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

The Spaceship Martini

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NN garage band, no reliable sources giving the substantial coverage to the band, as the GNG requires. Notability tagged for over a decade. Article deprodded with the rationale that a redirect or merge was more appropriate; the deprodder promptly then reverted the redirect.   Ravenswing     15:33, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:36, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:36, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Steven Martini, the band's most notable member. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 15:43, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to Steven Martini, there is useful cited content here that can be used to improve Steven Martini. ~Kvng (talk) 16:25, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * There is NO cited content, as it happens. So I'll perhaps ask you again: what content, sourced to a reliable source, do you claim exists?   Ravenswing      16:47, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That's because you removed it. ~Kvng (talk) 18:05, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Huh. I gather you never actually looked at those sources. Not a single one of them mentioned the subject -- not even as a namedrop -- and not a single one of those assertions were supported by the sources cited. So I'll ask you again a third time: what content, sourced to a reliable source, about the subject of this article, do you claim exists?   Ravenswing     00:46, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment the first of the references that were removed, from the New York Times, does mention the band at the end of the third paragraph. It's still not enough to persuade me that the page should be kept, though. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 12:23, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't see anyone is arguing that the article should be kept. The discussion is merge vs. redirect. Steven Martini or the Martini brothers is mentioned in all the deleted sources and so supports (former) material from this article that could be merged to Steven Martini. ~Kvng (talk) 14:57, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I should have made myself clearer - I agree with you that Steven Martini is a sensible target for a merge & redirect. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 15:22, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That Steven Martini or his brother is mentioned in all the sources is completely irrelevant; his own article is not up for deletion. As far as redirect goes, I agree with that, since I did the redirect in the first place.  As far as merging goes ... there is NOTHING TO MERGE.  The only information shown to exist is that Steven Martini fronts this garage band.  That information is already in Martini's article. Information liable to merge presupposes that such information is reliably sourced. There is no such information, you've been asked several times over to provide some, and each and every time you have refused to do so.  An editor of your longevity has to be aware that the onus on sourcing is on the editor wishing to retain such material.  Your continuing to litigate this is starting to verge on bad faith.   Ravenswing      15:45, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not enjoying this either. Why don't we just close this as redirect and I'll make some improvements to Steven Martini and we'll have an edit war there or whatever. ~Kvng (talk) 20:19, 16 July 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.