Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Speed of Thought


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was    Userfy and delete. The consensus below is that the film does not now meet the guidelines but probably will soon (it it certainly would meet them in the near future, I'd say just IAR and keep but we all know that distribution could fall through), so I will be deleting the article from the main article space and moving it to User:Erik/The Speed of Thought were it can be worked on (with history intact) and moved back once it has been released and reviewed. Eluchil404 (talk) 01:20, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

The Speed of Thought

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This article is based on a future film whose notability is questionable because there has not been any recent update of this film's progress. I've sandboxed this article at User:Erik/The Speed of Thought until it can be determined that this film will be coming out, warranting all the usual coverage a film gets. Erik (talk • contrib) - 03:49, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.   — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 03:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. When the film is released and if it meets WP:MOVIE, then an article would be OK. Beano (talk) 05:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. As is not Crystal. Filming has finished and is in post (see additions to article). Is weak though per WP:NFF. Maybe renominate in a few weeks if release is not announced. It is getting coverage.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 06:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, my issue is that August 2006 was more than two years ago, and it does not seem clear that the production is notable. Obviously, the cast members are prominent, but the lack of progress makes me wonder if this may be shelved.  To my recollection, The Adventures of Pluto Nash was made in 2000, was shelved for a while, then released two years later.  If significant coverage gears up for this film to show that it will really have a presence, it can be recreated. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 13:45, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I checked more closely with Access World News and LexisNexis Academic, and there is not even a passing mention of this film in the year 2008. While the overview links mention 2008 as a date, there does not seem to be any definite source on this.  It's possible that the film will be direct-to-video... — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 14:41, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I found contact informations for El Camino Films. Would wrinting them to simply ask if they have a release date yet be considered original research? They may be able to either direct me to a site that has such information, or inform me that it is not yet been decided. That could then either confirm that the article might stay (with the new source added) or that it might otherwise be deleted until a release is announcd.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 19:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It wouldn't be considered original research, but I'm not sure if it would be something that a reader could verify (like a website or a book in a library). You can give it a try; I just suppose I am pessimistic about the progress of this film after so long. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 19:59, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well... just fired off emails to El Camino's production staff and then even spoke on the phone with Chris Romano, one of their execs. He sympthyized with the article, explained that the post production took much longer than they expected, further shared that the film IS finally out of post... finished and is even now being lined up for release. I said that that was good... but unless there is something somewhere that can others can verify, the article may be deleted... at least until the film does get out. He promised to check his email, check with the film's director, and send me word. So... if I do not hear in a day or two, just save it and let it come back.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 23:31, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I have to admit, that's pretty cool. :) — Erik (talk • contrib) - 00:10, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope he is able to follow through as promised. At the very worst, we just stick this in a sandbox foe a few weeks.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 03:53, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete due to lack of coverage in reliable sources. Additionally, Erik, you should probably stick a db-author template on User:Erik/The Speed of Thought; should the closing admin decide to delete the article, he/she can then properly userfy the article to that location. This way, the article history will go with it to satisfy GFDL requirements. Steve  T • C 15:34, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Good point; I've done so. To the closing admin, if the article is deleted, please userfy it to the above link.  I will keep my eyes open for additional coverage and move it to the mainspace when there is sufficient coverage. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 16:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * And now the link is red. Is it now someplace else?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:10, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * db-author is a request for a page to be deleted. If this article is deleted, its page history can go to the now-empty page (rather than deal with the db-histmerge process).  Don't worry, the article won't be gone forever; I've asked for retrieval of some deleted articles to cull useful resources. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 19:39, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Errrr... okay, confused but learning.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 01:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


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