Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Spiritual Direction of the Muslims of Ukraine


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep.  Wifione  Message 05:02, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

The Spiritual Direction of the Muslims of Ukraine

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Zero refs. Zero RS gbooks hits. Zero RS gnews hits. Epeefleche (talk) 17:09, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete unless can find reliable third parrty source. 198.252.15.202 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:10, 23 January 2012 (UTC).
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:09, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
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 * Keep. I'm finding coverage by....searching in Ukrainian. Not voting a knee-jerk delete because of the absence of English sources is the simplest way of countering systemic bias. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 22:25, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong keep and rename. Article's only problem is mistranslation of the name. Search by the official Ukrainian name Духовне управління мусульман України returns not only the vibrant own site, but also plenty of results, including some news articles. The organization looks marginal indeed that managed to build a large mosque in the center of Kiev (the first one for 70 years), and is officially recognized by the government. A correct English name would be something like Clerical Board of Ukraine's Muslims. Ukrained (talk) 00:53, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:03, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Wifione  Message 04:52, 7 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment It is argued that under the Ukrainian name there is references for this article... but the article claims the unreferenced name of "The Spiritual Direction of the Muslims of Ukraine" and even goes on to the acronym of SDMU and is uncited. So to move it to Clerical Board of Ukraine's Muslims may be a better english title but unfortunately it seems a little WP:MADEUP.  What is required is the exact english translation that has the ability to be cited in my opinion. Pmedema (talk) 08:35, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak keep One entry on the first page of general GHits is a Ukrainian government webpage which looks in context to be a fully official government publication - and thus pretty certainly a reliable source. Some others, including this, are from the website of the Religious Information Service of Ukraine, which is run by the Ukrainian Catholic University - arguably reliable, but it would depend on what degree of editorial control RISU is exercising. However, I think the official Ukrainian government webpage is probably enough in this context - an organisation that the Ukrainian government deems representative of a significant proportion of Ukraine's Muslims is almost certain to be generating enough reliable coverage in Ukrainian to be notable. PWilkinson (talk) 22:53, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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