Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Station (YouTube)


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The result was   delete. NW ( Talk ) 03:06, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

The Station (YouTube)

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No notable Coverage out side of YouTube there are no references or WP:RS, only external links to YouTube. Violates WP:NOTBLOG WP:WEB WP:NOT  Kyle  1278  03:15, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Obvious delete I got about 68 hits from a google news search of "The Station" "YouTube" but most of them are not related. So unless somebody trawls through that and adds some decent reliable non-trivial sources, it fails all core guidelines as the nominator mentions. I would suggest speedy but it will probably end up at AfD eventually.--Otterathome (talk) 10:38, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fails WP:WEB. Joe Chill (talk) 13:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, no independent sources showing notability. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:19, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: "The Station" is brand-spanking new (first video posted Aug 8, 09), though the videos to date have performed very well on youtube . I added two refs to the article (the newteevee article is the notable source of the two), and edited the text a bit.  Its likely that the channel will generate more press if it continues on its current path, but I really can't say for sure.  Not sure it will before the AfD time is over.--Milowent (talk) 03:25, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment#2: Not finding any new notable articles about this as of today, though the page is getting some decent traffic per http://stats.grok.se/en/200908/The_Station_(YouTube) - e.g., 540 views on 8/23, 639 on 8/22. As an aside, is there a place I kind find out the avg page hits that wiki pages get, generally and by category, etc?  Just wondering.  --Milowent (talk) 15:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's a WP:BLP. And views don't equal notability, see WP:POPULARPAGE. The sources you added are both blogs, one digital blog and the other a user-contributed one, like blogspot. Also see WP:CRYSTAL.--Otterathome (talk) 19:22, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, though I made a stab at improving the article, I haven't said it should stay or go. I would note that Newteevee.com is not a "blog" in the "cat blogger" sense, its a legitimate paid-journalist site reporting on internet video industry-related topics, with articles of larger interest sometimes distributed through NYTimes, CNN, Salon, etc.  But this newteevee.com artcle is not an in-depth tome.  Now, girl2watch.com - that's the non-notable source i referenced before.  There's also an atrociously written "article" on the Station available through examiner.com.  And assuredly someone on livejournal likes it too, but that's not gonna be citable.
 * I am also not saying that a popular page means it should automatically be kept; I was registering my surprise at the viewcounts and wondered how that compares to an average wikipedia page (depending on category, etc.)
 * If the page doesn't stay, I suppose "The Station" could merit a mention on the existing pages for Lisa Nova and Phil DeFranco.--Milowent (talk) 21:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.