Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Story of Lando Freeman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Stifle (talk) 08:34, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

The Story of Lando Freeman

 * – ( View AfD View log  •  )


 * Delete - lack of independent reliable sources that significantly cover this specific episode. Fails WP:PLOT and WP:GNG. PROD removed by anon IP without explanation or any attempt at improvement. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 17:47, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Tyrol5  [Talk]  18:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  — Jujutacular  T · C 21:10, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 06:13, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks to be almost entirely unreliable blogs, some of which no longer exist, which offer brief plot summaries announcing when the episode will air. They don't establish notability. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 06:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep This is an episode of a well known television show in the United States. If this is deleted, then other episodes should be deleted for the same reason. Clerkenwell ''TALK PAGE!" Contribs 17:59, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:IKNOWIT and WP:WAX are not valid reasons for keeping an article. There need to be reliable sources to establish notability. The notability of the series does not confer notability on each individual episode. If there are other TV episodes that are similarly non-notable then you are correct, they should be deleted. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 18:29, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_overuse_shortcuts_to_policy_and_guidelines_to_win_your_argument Clerkenwell ''TALK PAGE!" Contribs 20:04, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, copying and pasting a link to an essay to complain that I'm overlinking to guidelines. That's pretty hilarious. And also non-responsive. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 20:37, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You linked to two guidelines, I linked to one. Clerkenwell ''TALK PAGE!" Contribs 20:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

If this is not notable, then none of the other Boondocks episodes are notable, but the other ones are on here, so this episode is notable. I have a reliable source if this source is not reliable, then Wikipedia is not reliable because Wikipedia is the source.
 * Also,  —Preceding unsignedClerkenwell ''TALK PAGE!" Contribs 21:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is absolutely not a reliable source for itself because anyone can edit it. The notability of other Boondocks episodes does not make this individual episode notable. Compare for example Pause (The Boondocks), which has received significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources including The Los Angeles Times and Slate.com. It is the existence of independent reliable sources that establish notability, not being part of a notable series. Maybe instead of trying to be cute about links to guidelines you should read them. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 21:16, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Instead of being condescending and saying I'm "trying to be cute," you should adopt a different tone. Clerkenwell ''TALK PAGE!" Contribs 21:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Honey, when I'm being condescending there won't be any question about it. Have you read those guidelines yet? Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 22:44, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Your use of a condescending tone after I have asked you to stop leads me to think that you're trolling. Clerkenwell ''TALK PAGE!" Contribs 16:58, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep -- this is as relevant as any other Boondocks episode. This afd smacks of WP:idontlikeit. --166.137.143.184 (talk) 03:10, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Since I have been heavily involved in editing other Boondocks episode articles, your bad faith accusation is demonstrably false. "Other episodes are notable" is an invalid argument, since the notability of other episodes or the series as a whole do not confer notability on each individual episode. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 15:34, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait a sec -- who is the ultimate arbiter of what is notable enough...you? The onion review works for me, and it also counters the claim of no third party sources noted in at least one delete vote. --166.137.142.69 (talk) 05:24, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete- Articles about individual episodes that consist of nothing but plot summary, and which derive all their notability from the parent series rather than have it in their own right, are not to be encouraged on Wikipedia. Reyk  YO!  05:27, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * when 90% of The Simpsons episode articles get deleted, that policy will have teeth. Now it just comes off as a weird bias. --166.137.142.69 (talk) 05:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Every other television episode that has ever been broadcast since television began could have its own article and that wouldn't mean that this one should. Each article stands and falls on its own merits and arguing for the retention of one episode article because other episodes have articles is invalid. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 13:05, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

WP:DEMOLISH It consists of just a plot summary, but there could be more added to the page, don't delete it because it is not finished yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheClerksWell (talk • contribs) 18:12, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep -- the deletionists mean well, but in this instance the onion A/V seals it for me. That article puts the episode in the context of the season as well. --166.137.142.69 (talk) 05:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Um, you've already !voted. No doublesies. Reyk  YO!  05:38, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * more than one person uses ATT, k thx. --166.137.141.241 (talk) 15:30, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe. But when three IPs from the same range edit the same AfD as their first edits it's pretty clear they're the same person. You're not fooling anyone. Reyk  YO!  19:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Seems to establish notability. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheClerksWell (talk • contribs) 18:14, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.Lionel (talk) 00:39, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.