Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Thomas Marshall Child Murder of 1997


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. Sjakkalle (Check!)  08:20, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

The Thomas Marshall Child Murder of 1997
Tragic, but not encyclopaedic. Pilatus 00:35, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Agree as to tragedy, but does not belong.  Jtmichcock 00:45, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment The text smells like a copyvio to me - at the very least, it's probably been cut and pasted from somewhere else, with or without permission. Whether this belongs in an encyclopedia or not is not really covered by this article at all.  How much notoriety did the case get?  Did it have any wider effects?  For example, did any laws change?  Did police procedure change?  Did any charities or movements get inspired by this murder?  Was it used as the basis for a work of fiction?  All of this would help. A murder on its own is not enough to get in the encyclopedia, but if it was a notable case, then it might. Matthew Brown 02:34, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Further, Google gets very few results for this case. For such a recent murder to be worth an article, one would expect more press coverage than this ... Matthew Brown 02:38, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * The press coverage was nowhere near the Soham murders. Can't remember it hitting the headlines anywhere. Pilatus 02:48, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: A particular crime without a wider set of effects or celebrity. It is a horrible thing, and it's a sign perhaps of the wickedness of our Malthusian age that it's not with serious effects.  More remember "Wragg is in custody" than Wragg. (A woman who murdered her infant.) Geogre 03:13, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: I feel bad defending a child murderer on this, but the article is riddled with POV language and appears to be written to disparage its subject. I'll drop a note on the British noticeboard to get some feedback. Perhaps coverage was better offline at that time. - Mgm|(talk) 09:46, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Left a note at: Wikipedia talk:UK Wikipedians' notice board. - Mgm|(talk) 09:51, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - it's a school essay about a crime that is more common than one would expect. It's too long than any article on this subject deserves, and did not have any effect on British legislation, unlike the Soham murders or Jamie Bulger's murder.  All in all, it's a crap article about a non-notable incident. -- Francs2000 [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|  ]] 10:46, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Maccoinnich 10:59, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Dottore So 11:02, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - having read the article I vaguely recall the case, but it had no effect on the legal system and therefore was not particularly notable. In any case, it reads like it's been lifted from some other source, somewhere. -- Arwel (talk) 13:17, 16 November 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.