Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Top 100: NFL's Greatest Players


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. No prejudice to relisting the "new" article about the TV series, but the original reason for deletion no longer exists. Black Kite (t) (c) 00:20, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

The Top 100: NFL's Greatest Players

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This article's contents are the property of the NFL Network, a copying of the list constitutes a copyvio.

See here and here for precedent. Quadzilla99 (talk) 19:04, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:32, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't understand the reasoning for deleting it.--Yankees10 19:12, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as WP:COPYVIO. Even if it wasn't for the copy vio, it would be delete based on notability due to subjective opinions that don't mean anything. --Muboshgu (talk) 19:49, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment So does the same apply to The Sporting News - Football's 100 Greatest Players or The Sporting News list of Baseball's Greatest Players?--Yankees10 20:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep. Quadzilla99 (talk) 01:37, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete Click on the link in the article and you'll find "© 2010 NFL Enterprises LLC." and a link to "Terms and Conditions" on the bottom of the page that says "1. Copyright Rights... You may use the Services and the contents contained in the Services solely for your own individual non-commercial and informational purposes only. Any other use, including for any commercial purposes, is strictly prohibited without our express prior written consent..."  You can't get more WP:COPYVIO than that.  I've blanked the list and replaced it with the link.  Sorry for the inconvenience, but the NFL Network has a © on there for a reason. Mandsford 22:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 00:33, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete Open and shut; list is copyrighted, thus it doesn't belong here unless we get the expressed written consent of the National Football League, which isn't coming anytime soon.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 00:47, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral. The copyvio was been removed; but its notability is still debatable. Erpert (let's talk about it)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Relisting comment. Copyvio has been removed but more discussion is needed on the subject's notability. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:34, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. This was a notable series of programs on the NFL Network that received a ton of media coverage. As shown by a search at Google News, it received coverage and discussion at all the other major sports outlets. By the way, while reprinting the entire list is a bad idea, there's no reason the top few names couldn't be mentioned in the article.--Arxiloxos (talk) 00:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. Copyvio aside, there's no reasoning behind including every generated list ever, especially if we can't even show the list due to copyright issues. Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 17:15, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The article is now about the 10-part TV series--which generated a ton of discussion in the sports media, and on that basis appears to me to be notable as a TV series. People who want to find the list can find it easily from the external link provided at the end of the page.--Arxiloxos (talk) 17:25, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.