Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Unfunny Truth (second nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the nomination was delete. Mailer Diablo 17:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

The Unfunny Truth
Previous AfD (Articles for deletion/The Unfunny Truth) closed as consensus merge; this was not done. Nobody voted keep. There is actually not much to merge, since this article lacks any citations from reliable sources. The article seems to exist primarily as part of the YTMNDers' Googlebombing campaign, as a consequence of which the site has had to be blacklisted due to repetaed spamming. In the context of a global analysis of criticism of scientology, I'd say this is of striclty limited significance; it does not appear to be by any credible or respected critic of Scientology (of which there appear to be several) and does not appear to bring to light any novel arguments, analysis or cases. Essentially it's just a single presentation of the usual knocking copy about Scientology (admittedly a soft target and well worth knocking). No evidence is presented of notability beyond the YTMND community. The copyright status of the sounds and images is, as usual with YTMND, somewhere between unclear and questionable. I would say we should simply delete and redirect to Lisa McPherson, since that is the bulk of the content. Incidentally, this is actually one of the better YTMNDs, it even has references, it's just not provably significant outside that community. Just zis Guy you know? 10:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect to Scientology versus the Internet.-- Andeh 10:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete The previous concensus and notice of merge generated nothing. A deadline to shift the few worthwhile bits to Scientology versus the Internet (which already has an unhyped version of the events) would get the job done. AndroidCat 11:39, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Merges that are not done after 20 days or so aer probably never going to get done (particualrly when they are this small). Batmanand | Talk 12:31, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete as db-repost. This article (with a slightly different title) was previously nominated for AfD by me and was deleted . --IslaySolomon 13:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Actually the content seems to suffcicient different not to merit a db-repost. However, please see this previous AfD discussion: . --IslaySolomon 13:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm going to repeat myself: "Delete. This is not likely to be a search term, and the overwhelming majority of YTMND sites are not notable." --Core des at talk. o.o;; 13:15, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as vanity. Links to this page are spammed to scientology articles here daily. --InShaneee 19:20, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * not any more :-) Just zis Guy you know? 22:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete & Redirect to Scientology versus the Internet, there's not much to merge ˉˉanetode╦╩ 19:55, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete (without merge or redirect) per Coredsat. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as people using Wikipedia to make mischief. Danny Lilithborne 00:54, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as not notable. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 12:12, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as Sarah Ewart. -- GWO
 * Merge - There are lots of criticisms of the Church of Scientology, but the Unfunny Truth was the first one that could sit a person down and show you a 5 minute flash of well-condensed information as to what the criticisms are all about. It may not deserve its own thread, but it should be merged with Scientology versus the Internet, especially given the Church's actions to suppress the Unfunny Truth. --Neverborn 19:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * None of which criticisms were novel. Last time the close was merge, it was not done. This is already covered in scientology versus the internet anyway. Just zis Guy you know? 19:28, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Merge - Wikipedia is an informational archive: This page contains verifiable information rather than opinions or outright libel as 'mischief creation' would imply, and as such should not be deleted. Should you find the content biased, it is a simple matter to reword it more objectively, and there is an existing tag for "needs citation" if that is your concern. Frankly, I can only see one reason to delete this page rather than merge it.--71.55.25.64 23:23, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.