Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Usage of Social Media by The Islamic State


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. See WP:RM for requesting a title change and to gather consensus on what the title should be, redirects for the suggested titles below have been created and tagged as R from alternative name. (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 18:15, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

The Usage of Social Media by The Islamic State

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Completely orphaned essay with a weirdly capitalized title, which appears to be a pure content fork of Terrorism and social media with very little ISIL-specific material as opposed to generic material which applies to all terrorist movements. (From the comments on Talk:The Usage of Social Media by The Islamic State, it looks suspiciously like this is an essay produced as part of Wiki Ed/University of California, Berkeley/Social Movements and Social Media (Fall 2017) but not declared as such.) AFDing rather than unilaterally merging, just in case there is something unique to the way ISIL recruits and propagandizes on social media as opposed to (say) Al-Qaeda. If this is kept, it needs a better title. &#8209; Iridescent 19:58, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 20:20, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 20:20, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 20:20, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 20:20, 27 February 2018 (UTC)


 * (Delete) Regardless of whether the topic is valid or not, we should not host poorly sourced articles about the recruitment methods of proscribed terrorist groups. I would say ISIL/ISIS/whatever has used social media to a much greater extent than any group before them. But whether this fact requires any acknowledgement beyond a short paragraph in Terrorism and social media which Iridescent identified is another matter. Prince of Thieves (talk) 20:28, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, but only if renamed to something along the lines of ISIL and social media to increase its scope. Prince of Thieves (talk) 14:21, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Highly notable topic covered in depth in news and academia (and yes, IS is quite distinct social media wise in relation to AQ - contributing to their recruiting sucess) Not a content fork of Terrorism and social media which barely covers IS. Title caps should be changed to Wiki standards (which are different from the standard outside of wiki). Article is not an ESSAY, and is not close to TNT. Being created as a wikied project is not grounds for deletion (and it actually usually means someone actually reviewed it for a grade). Wikilinking this into the project would not be difficult. Sourcing in the article is pretty good. Unless an actual fork is identified (and even then the correct call may ge merge) there are no grounds for deletion.Icewhiz (talk) 20:38, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep There is significant coverage relating specifically to ISIS use of social media. For example: This showed up in my inbox today:
 * The page, as it stands, is pretty poor and I seriously doubt that the media makes the distinction between ISIS, affiliates, AQ and their spin offs etc but there is enough material out there relating to ISIS social media strategy and the people who execute that strategy to sustain an article on this topic. Jbh  Talk  22:31, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The page, as it stands, is pretty poor and I seriously doubt that the media makes the distinction between ISIS, affiliates, AQ and their spin offs etc but there is enough material out there relating to ISIS social media strategy and the people who execute that strategy to sustain an article on this topic. Jbh  Talk  22:31, 27 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - Article is incomplete and needs more content but subject is notable. — MapSGV (talk) 01:45, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - May I suggest, if this is kept, that the article's title be changed to ISIL and social media? Seems more to the point and in tune with Terrorism and social media.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:53, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes and that will boost its scope. — MapSGV (talk) 01:54, 28 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - The article does need more content, yet the subject is certainly notable. ISIS at its peak power was intensely covered by the press along with its modus operandi - including its recruitment methods which included social media. The formatting of the title of the article does need to be changed though.Knox490 (talk) 02:36, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and NUKE As this stands, it warrants deletion on the basis of what is written as the content is pretty much atrocious, however the topic is quite noteworthy and covered by multiple RS. We should keep the article, but remove most of the junk and replace it with some high or passable quality material. Elektricity (talk) 04:13, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Not that bad, because there is a lack of copyright and BLP violation. Rewriting is the only solution. — MapSGV (talk) 04:37, 28 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep valuable coverage of a relevant, important, and widely discussed topic. Improving the article shouldn't be hard at all given the widespread RS and expert coverage. No this must not be subsumed under just "Terrorism and Social Media"--Calthinus (talk) 05:58, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep without doubt this is a significant and valid topic. It is supported by solid sources, but, and more importantly, there is an enormous amount of sourcing available on this topic. Here's a google search on article title, The Usage of Social Media by The Islamic State: .   The fact that article has  room for improvement/expansion is not an argument for deletion.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:19, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep IS have shown notable usage of social media, in fact exceptional and far reaching. notable for an article. Deathlibrarian (talk) 11:03, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep the subject is notable. The title should be moved to an appropriate one like Use of social media by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant etc.  samee  talk 22:15, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Important and highly notable subject, which is well-reported. Mattyjohn (talk) 00:28, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.