Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Varsity Dodgeball Match


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:11, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

The Varsity Dodgeball Match

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"Annual" event that has happened once, no independent sources found. While I love watching people bean each other with rubber balls, I fail to see how this passes the bar under WP:GNG. My PROD was removed a month ago, but nothing since has established notability. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;   &copy;  11:45, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete not the least evidence of notability, and including a list of all the players on both teams is absurd. We try to avoid the term "vanity article" but I think it applies here.  DGG ( talk ) 18:14, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:56, 6 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, → B  music  ian  02:09, 12 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak keep. Varsity matches (i.e. between the universities of Oxford and Cambridge) in any sport tend to attract attention in the press, perhaps more than they deserve, but they are still independent sources. This is a new match, but it seems to be an official match, so it is likely to continue. If we delete it now, it is likely to come back after the next match or the one after it. Why not let it stay and see if it develops? -- Bduke   (Discussion)  03:20, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Just so I'm clear on your reasoning, you believe we should keep it because while it isn't currently notable, it might be notable in the future?  Dennis Brown  -  2&cent;   &copy;  15:23, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * There have been several attempts to delete articles on the Oxford - Cambridge match in less common sports, but they finish up being kept because such events between Oxford and Cambridge are noticed, unlike for events between other UK universities. I am surprised that this event has not attracted notice, and suspect that if you and I were closer to these two universities we would find some sources. It will certainly come back in the future. It has a source that says it did take place and it is interesting material, so I still think this is a weak keep. It needs more sources and it needs cleaning up, but both of these will happen in time. -- Bduke    (Discussion)  22:16, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Had sources been readily available, I would have simply added them myself. If you have them, by all means, provide them and allow the sources to speak for themselves.  Otherwise, it is speculation that a one time event will ever become noteworthy enough to pass the criteria for inclusion here.   Dennis Brown  -  2&cent;   &copy;  23:10, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * As I said, I think it needs people in the UK, not the USA and Australia, to look for sources. Not all sources are on the internet. You will probably win the day and this will be deleted, but I predict it will be back again, probably after the 2013 match. Varsity matches between Oxford and Cambridge in any sport get a quite unusual amount of notice and that is all we need for notability. -- Bduke   (Discussion)  00:57, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * And to be sure, I welcome that day and would be glad to see the article here fully sourced. Until then, we are forced to draw a line in the sand that applies to all articles, and decide which side of the line the article falls on.   Dennis Brown  -  2&cent;   &copy;  01:57, 14 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete no evidence of meeting WP:NEVENT, if the event is notable in the future, there's no prejustice for recreation. Secret account 01:59, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - not notable. I also don't agree with the suggestion that all sports matches between Oxford and Cambridge get loads of coverage, other than The Boat Race, the rugby and cricket fixtures they get pretty much none, even in the UK (where I reside).  The annual football match, for example, isn't even covered in specialist football magazines, let alone the more general press.  A match in such an incredibly minor sport as dodgeball definitely won't have received any coverage...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:40, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
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