Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Visitors (American punk band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 11:43, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

The Visitors (American punk band)

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Fails both WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO.

This article fails notability. This was a local band which was signed for a very brief time to a small independent label. The article does not meet Wikipedia's notability standards as it does not contain any high-quality secondary sources. According to Wikipedia, ″Determining notability does not necessarily depend on things such as fame, importance, or popularity″.

The topic has not ″received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject″ (Wikipedia). Most of the sources lack ″editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability″ (Wikipedia).

Wikipedia also states that "The common theme in the notability guidelines is that there must be verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support a claim of notability.″

The subject of the article has not gained significant attention from independent sources. Wikipedia states ″No subject is automatically or inherently notable merely because it exists: The evidence must show the topic has gained significant independent coverage or recognition, and that this was not a mere short-term interest, nor a result of promotional activity or indiscriminate publicity, nor is the topic unsuitable for any other reason. Sources of evidence include recognized peer-reviewed publications, credible and authoritative books, reputable media sources, and other reliable sources generally

The page is full of unreliable and unverifiable and original research. The page contains quite a lot of unsourced conjecture and the sources are dubious. According to Wikipedia, ″the phrase ′original research′ (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist.″

The sources are either local coverage in the Dallas Observer (which is a repeated source) or from an unknown fanzine. This would not pass the "significant independent coverage or recognition" required. Also, the reference to Billboard charts is actually "most requested songs on the radio" charts which does not pass reliable sources.

Also, the article breaches verifiability and is a conjectural interpretation.

The article also goes against the neutral point of view (NPOV) policy. According to Wikipedia neutrality guidelines, ″If your viewpoint is held by an extremely small minority, then—whether it's true or not, whether you can prove it or not—it doesn't belong in Wikipedia.″

According to Wikipedia guidelines, ″material about living people that is sourced or poorly sourced should be removed immediately.″ ColonelDavy (talk) 20:36, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2017 November 10.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 20:49, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:22, 18 November 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Rcsprinter123    (babble)  21:20, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:BAND. But next time you write an AfD rationale, please try to be more concise. Pburka (talk) 21:47, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:BAND. Sources provided in article are either primary or mention the band incidentally. Operator873 CONNECT 03:56, 29 November 2017 (UTC)


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