Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Volten Sins


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Speedy Delete A7 (group): Doesn't indicate importance or significance of a group/company/etc by User:SatyrTN. (non-admin closure) Amalthea Talk 17:52, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

The Volten Sins

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A band without a recording contract, only notable because is was a side project of a minor television actor, the main coverage of which is about how she was hit by a train at a level crossing. Wongm (talk) 23:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I can't even find anything that verifies Jessie was in the band, nor can I verify anything at all about this band. This might be an A7, depending on whether or not having an individually notable member is an assertation of notability. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 23:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Verifibility Issues  « l | Ψrom3th3ăn ™ | l »   (talk) 00:34, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, article fails to establish notability as per WP:MUSIC.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 01:13, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment User:HorseGirl070605 overwrote the afd discussion (most likely by mistake) with a bunch of links. I have put these below:
 * The Volten Sins at MySpace
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 * News report of Jessica's death
 * Mourners told Jessica Jacobs was a caring, talented girl
 * Saddle Club's Jessica Jacobs slipped onto rail tracks
 * Australian TV Star Dies
 * Family slams Jacobs suicide claim
 * Young TV star Jessica Jacobs farewelled
 * Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 06:35, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I put up those articles and The Volten Sins MySpace site to prove that Jessie Jacobs was in The Volten Sins until the time of her death. HorseGirl070605
 * The issue isn't about Jessie Jacobs being in the group - that is clear cut - the issue is whether The Volten Sins are important enough to have a Wikipedia entry. Wongm (talk) 06:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Very Weak Keep doesn't WP:MUSIC say if a band has a notable member than they are notable? There definitely needs to be better sources (ones which talk about the band itself apart from the notable member's death) would be best. If I'm wrong or there is more to WP:MUSIC that overrides that than do what needs to be done. Jasynnash2 (talk) 08:54, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge maybe, but definitely redirect to Jessie Jacobs. Individual notability is unclear for the musical group, but she was clearly a notable person.--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 10:19, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Jessica Jacobs per WP:MUSIC C6. According to The Age Jessica Jacobs was a member of this band, and WP:MUSIC is pretty clear here: A band is notable if it "contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such, and that common sense exceptions always apply.". Since the band isn't notable on its own a redirect is in order. Amalthea Talk 11:23, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per CSD:A7. No assertion of notability for the band. Stifle (talk) 13:14, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


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