Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Waste Lands (album)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus, leaning towards Keep. Merging to artists's article would also be unexceptional. Black Kite 14:12, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

The Waste Lands (album)

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An album that fails to meet WP:MUSIC with significant coverage in reliable, third-party, sources. Article tagged with no improvement, multiple redirects reverted, also with no improvement.  Esradekan Gibb   "Talk" 13:07, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  —    Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 13:07, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. All of the band's other full-length albums have articles, and there appears to be no dispute over their notability. As WP:OSE declares, when looking at "categories of items with a finite number of entries where most are notable," there is no point to arguing at length over whether possible exceptions should be created; Wikipedia's purpose of "being a comprehensive reference" is frustrated by haphazard article coverage. As here, in most such cases, sources can be located. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 15:26, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom (and indeed per WP:OSE).  Chzz  ►  09:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep as the nomination is absurd on its face. The information in this article is (of course) encyclopedic; what could be more encyclopedic than album information for an obviously important musical act? If its having a separate article irks (and arguments in favor of its being irksome are frankly weak), the information should be merged into a discography page or the parent article (as WP:MUSIC advises). But if that is done, it should be done such that all of the album tracklistings are presented, so as not to make a crazy-quilt. Chubbles (talk) 16:57, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: The article provides little to no information besides track listing. It has no sources proclaiming it's an important part of the group's discography. Sure Venom are a popular and important band, that's why we have an article about them. Sure some of their albums such as "Black Metal" are important and written about and pass WP:Music#Albums, that's why we have articles for them. If we can't find much information about this album, then this article doesn't really have much of a reason to exist. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:34, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable band, notable label. Not being referenced doesn't mean it should be deleted. There are sources out there that at least confirm its existence as a part of the Venom discography. If it is deleted, it will set a dangerous and massive precedent for the discography of nearly all artists covered on Wikipedia. And as per Hullaballoo with the haphazard coverage, and Chubbles with more encyclopedic coverage. My reading of the album project page and the music notability page is that notable artists have separate album articles, unless it is little more than a track listing. I believe this is a little more than a track listing – enough to make a stub in any case. So if you are intending to take all such articles to AfD, you may be swimming against the tide of consensus at WP:ALBUMS, at least. – B.hotep •talk• 21:29, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep: It is a notable band with notable members who is releasing this album. It does need improvement, such as in the references department and there could be a possible history section in the article. Backtable Speak to Me  about what I have done  03:39, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.