Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Watchers Series


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. j⚛e deckertalk 00:08, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

The Watchers Series

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Unremarkable book series by a non-notable author, and the creator seems to be COI based on the username Zeusu 18:02, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

The Watchers is a legitimate upcoming release by emerging author Deirdra Eden, an editor, mentor, and public speaker, who is well known in the publishing industry. The original article was submitted by the author, herself. For questions or concerns, please visit her website www.Knightess.com 18:42, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment by nom: Are you at all related to the author or involved in this series? Your account is brand new and the only edits are to this page and this comment. If you are that is a conflict of interest and you must disclose that. Zeusu 18:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I am involved in this series, I am Deirdra Eden's editor and publicist. I am, obviously, new to editing on wikipedia. 19:21, 28 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional-related deletion discussions  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 18:24, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete. There's no actual coverage of the series as a whole. I tried to see if there was any coverage for the author herself, but there isn't anything out there for her as a whole other than one magazine review and that's not enough to show notability per WP:AUTHOR or WP:NBOOK. I've got a fairly detailed notability Q&A here, but the basic thing is that the books/series/author must have already established notability through reliable sources to pass our notability guidelines. She and her works exist, but existing is not notability and we can't keep an article on the hopes that she'll eventually gain coverage. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:41, 29 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete : The wonderful thing about Wikipedia is that almost nothing is set in stone. If the books attract significant third party coverage, sufficient to meet the standards laid out at our notability guidelines, we can always write an article. In the mean time, this doesn't belong here (and you, as someone with a conflict of interest, don't belong writing the article).  S ven M anguard   Wha?  06:22, 29 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete Wikipedia is first and foremost an encyclopedia, not a place for marketing, and as such article subjects have to be notable, as shown by reliable sources independent of the subject. If this series meets that standard in the future, it can and should have an article, though not one written by anyone with a direct connection, as that would be a conflict of interest. Novusuna talk 21:06, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.