Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Way The Church of Yahweh in Christ Jesus


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;   &spades;  04:25, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

The Way The Church of Yahweh in Christ Jesus
The full name of this new religious movement is apparently 'The Way The Church of Yahweh in Christ Jesus', sometimes rendered with a dash between "The Way" and "The Church" and sometimes not. Searching on just "The Church of Yahweh in Christ Jesus" gets just 159 Google hits, and Google actually trims that down to just 14 when it eliminates similar entries. All 14 hits appear to be message boards or Wikipedia mirrors -- you'd think that if this was a notable denomination, we'd have at least one newspaper or magazine or journal article on it. -- Antaeus Feldspar 00:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete per own nom. -- Antaeus Feldspar 00:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom.    Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk  01:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, unless some tangible source of notability turns up. --Ed (Edgar181) 02:14, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The Way The Church of Yahweh exists in The Los Angeles area. It began in San Bernardino California in late 2001. The article was started by Zarove who belonged to a Church of Christ.
 * The final editing and cleanup was done by User:Zanimum by an e-mail he received from me. It was no different than this article by The Christadelphians to which it resembles in beliefs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christadelphians
 * The Way The Church of Yahweh in Christ Jesus is not a cult like Heaven's Gate, the Branch Davidians led by David Koresh, Jim Jones and The People's Temple...to name a few who have articles on Wikipedia.
 * The founder of The Way The Church of Yahweh in Christ Jesus was vicepresident of Catholic Action in the Los Angeles arcdiocese in the 1980s. He has been a T.A. and mathematics teacher for the past 24 years http://www.lausd.k12.ca.us/Lincoln_HS/Egonzalez/. Among those he has worked with in the classroom are Mia Hamm in 6th grade washington Elementary in Compton, Venus Williams  and Serena Williams at Foster Elementary, Warren Moon's mother-in-law at Foster Elementary. He ws also a clasmate at Mr. Simmon's science class at Dominguez High in Compton of Andre Young, known as Dr. Dre.
 * I know these things because my name is Elpidio Gonzalez. I am more of the intellectual type, not the emotional kind. I try to avoid contraversy, that is why I am not in the news like these guys were.
 * I did not submit the article. But what got me is the way is being handled since it appears I am classified as a cultist, spammer, or something similar. the article has been cleaned up...by Zanimum...It is in the same format as some others...but it seems you guys love contraversy. Probably your wish will come true.
 * I have saved the article and this talk for future references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.108.235.181 (talk • contribs)
 * Question Do you mind if I ask for future reference in regards to what? T e  k e  06:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Followup The reason I ask is that the GFDL license doesn't always apply to these pages, for example my comments do not. So I was wanting to know if this was for personal reference or if you intend to do other things with it.   T e  k e  03:56, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I have reformatted your comments to help the discussion flow better. I hope you don't mind.  (I didn't change any of your text - just compacted it so that the discussion wouldn't be so disjointed.) BigDT 03:28, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It was no different than this article by The Christadelphians to which it resembles in beliefs. Well, that may appear true from your perspective.  However, you may not realize -- we're not talking about the merits of the groups; we're talking about the merits of the articles.  This means that it doesn't matter whether TCOYIJC is "a cult like Heaven's Gate, the Branch Davidians led by David Koresh, Jim Jones and The People's Temple" or not -- that has absolutely no influence on the decision.  What is very different between your group and the others you mention is that for all those other groups, we can report what reliable sources say about them.  That's because ... reliable sources are mentioning them. -- Antaeus Feldspar 04:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. &mdash; Khoikhoi 03:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - it looks like the work/beliefs of a single person, not an actual, existing church. BigDT 03:23, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, no reliable sources with web forums as references. Per nom. - Motor (talk) 08:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Max S em 09:30, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per NN Ydam 12:50, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Nearly Headless Nick 13:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom as non-notable. Ifnord 14:34, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 16:57, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. VegaDark 18:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I can see the 12 apostles have spoken. What am I to do. Yet, Micah 4:1 NIV

'''In the last days the mountain of Yahweh's temple will be established as chief among the mountains; it will be raised above the hills, and peoples will stream to it.'''

gives me hope. This is my last comment on this subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.108.235.181 (talk • contribs)


 * I corrected your citation - I hope you don't mind - that verse is actually 4:1, not 3:1. And, by the way, we have an article on Yahweh's Temple.  BigDT 04:27, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.