Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The West Wing presidential election, 1998 (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. \ Backslash Forwardslash / {talk} 00:15, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

The West Wing presidential election, 1998
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I am also nominating the following related pages:

information is completely in-universe and doesn't conform to WP:PLOT and In-universe policies. This is better served in a small episode summary on a list of episodes page. Notability is also questioned where this warrants its own article - its merely one section of a fictional television show. Ejfetters (talk) 07:55, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge all together into fictional elections from "The West Wing" (TV series) or somesuch. Note that the election with Matt Santos has real world currency, since it was frequently noted in comparison to the election of Obama. 76.66.192.64 (talk) 09:12, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Okay, you are telling me that we have an article about a fake election on wikipedia. What next, an article about all the times films have said Arnold Schwarzenegger became president, or better yet an article about the future election of him, because we all know it is possible. We've had a black man, a dumb redneck, a film star, etc. Why not amend the constitution and allow The Governator in the White House. All I see in the article are primary sources, weak content, the lack thereof as well, etc. I could see this being mentionable because The West Wing was a popular TV show, and if third party sources became available then the content of all the elections could be merged into one article about all the elections on the show. Until that time comes, I remain firm on deleting.-- Will C  10:02, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete 1998 and 2002; no real-world connections, entirely original research about in-universe details. The 2006 article contains one paragraph that appears to show some real-world notability, but is in urgent need of cleanup (read: a reduction in size and level of detail by at least 80%). Kusma (talk) 11:32, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * However, one paragraph hardly is enough to base an entire article on, and removing everything except that paragraph will leave little information, and better suited to be placed in the episode summary perhaps, or a link for the episode itself. I'm not saying merge these to the episode articles, then they would still not conform to WP:PLOT. Ejfetters (talk) 08:15, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Why are we treating this topic like it's real? These are basically just articles about the plot arc for some episodes, nothing more. I don't know how this withstood 2 AfDs in the first place. It violates WP:NOTE, WP:WAF, WP:NOR, and WP:PLOT.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  11:52, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Both of these could have, and should have been entitled "West Wing Season 1" and "West Wing Season 4", etc., and if someone elects to move them to that, I would change my !vote.  But I think it's disgusting to see these mentioned in Category: United States presidential elections (and I'm going to remove the tag).  Since these fictional campaigns and elections took place in the course of a TV season, the minutiae and trivia can be taken care of there.  Mandsford (talk) 14:13, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 'Delete: Non-notable fictional elections. Joe Chill (talk) 18:53, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete 1998 & 2002 I'm very sad to see the article go, but it does not conform to standards: it has no assertion of notability or relevance. Moreover due to the limited information there is about the election most of the article is guess work and specularion. C mon (talk) 07:13, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * If there is a West Wing wiki, i don't know if there is, someone could take these articles and the informatino there where they are better suited. Ejfetters (talk) 08:15, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There actually is a west wing wiki. C mon (talk) 06:28, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thats cool, the material can be saved then. Take it to the wiki. Ejfetters (talk) 21:48, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete unnecessary regurgitation of plot. --EEMIV (talk) 21:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep 2006 if it can be reworked to focus more on the "parallels to to 2008" as that was significantly hyped up by the media in the run up to the '08 election. Bigvinu (talk) 19:07, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I tend to agree that 2006 is a special case. Here links are provided to external sources which support the notability of this fictional event. C mon (talk) 06:25, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it would be better merged into the articke for the 2008 election. It is based upon a fictional election here and would be better made available in that article and a section in the West Wing article. Ejfetters (talk) 21:47, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.