Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Western Investor (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 15:49, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

The Western Investor
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Although I was heavily involved on the keep side in the original AFD discussion a decade ago, Wikipedia's notability and sourcing requirements for bands have been tightened up considerably since then. Their most solid notability claim at the time was charting on CBC Radio 3, but that's now much more clearly deprecated as a WP:BADCHART that cannot get a band over NMUSIC #2 by itself anymore, and they haven't done anything since releasing This Beautiful Town in 2006, so they don't have a solid claim to passing any other NMUSIC criterion — and they simply don't have any strong reliable source coverage about them to pass WP:GNG, either. They were a valid article topic at the time, but our notability and sourcing standards are much stricter in 2018 than they were a decade ago, and this band just doesn't have anything that passes them anymore. I am sad to say that it has to go, given how well I remember the passion of the original discussion, but NMUSIC has simply changed too much since 2006. Bearcat (talk) 00:47, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 01:46, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 01:46, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete: Really interesting historical record here of how notability has changed-- but Bearcat is ultimately right in his nom. I've looked everywhere for sources and I wasn't able to find anything in addition to the CBC Radio 3 chart, and per Bearcat's nom, that isn't enough for notability. I'm !voting delete. Nomader (talk) 23:39, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment – I created this article back in 2007, and I will be sad to see this piece of history go. (Bearcat is, of course, correct in his assessment of the change in notability standards from eleven years ago.) There was minor heat that resulted when I created the article, had a speedy deletion reversed, and then argued for its retention along with Bearcat (who – cool fact – got on-air props from The R3-30 host Craig Norris about his successful efforts for this article) ... which led to me going down a path of years of involvement at AfD and searching for sources for vulnerable articles. With apologies for the moment of self-indulgence, Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 02:08, 27 February 2018 (UTC)


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