Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The World Is Round


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The result was   merge to Tony Rothman.  Ryan Postlethwaite See the mess I've created or let's have banter 19:05, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

The World Is Round

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No indication of notability, no reliable sources. Was prodded, prod removed by the author without improvement. Huon (talk) 21:58, 1 June 2013 (UTC) Huon (talk) 21:58, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The article was improved. Check again.-- Auric    talk  22:35, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
 * You added a link to the ISFDB (broken; I repaired that). That's not a reliable source, and it didn't seem to lead to any reliable sources. Huon (talk) 22:42, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
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 * This article, and the search result summary snippet for this paywalled article indicate that the book was a bestseller but with no additional information.  Given the book was published in 1978, online sources are going to be harder to come by but I did not find anything more significant in my search.  As such it can be redirected to Tony Rothman. -- Whpq (talk) 16:41, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Weak delete. No assertion of notability, mostly just a plot summary. —  Richard  BB  07:41, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge as noted above, while I am sure sources exist, they will be mostly offline. Right now its claim of notability is un-substantiated. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 21:00, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:06, 9 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Smerge and redirect to the author, Tony Rothman. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:38, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Book from a major publisher, perfectly suitable for an article.  Gamaliel (talk) 20:59, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Notability is not inherited, being published by a "major publisher" does not convey notability. --Bejnar (talk) 05:56, 17 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar   &middot;   &middot;  03:41, 17 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Tony Rothman. I did not find any review in the New York Times, nor any listing on their best seller list, in 1978, 1979 or elsewhen. I checked newspaper archive and found no coverage of Tony Rothman's book. There probably was a Locus review, but I don't have access to the back issues. In 1978 virtually no science fiction novels were best-sellers, unless one restricts that meaning to just sales of science fiction, and even then I find no evidence of The World Is Round being a sci-fi bestseller, except as cited above in not necessarily reliable sources. (Note: Stephen King and Dean R. Koontz publish horror novels, even though they may use scifi tropes.) In 1973, Kurt Vonnegut's Breakfast of Champions made the best seller list. Adams' The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy first published in 1979 eventually became a best seller. But even books as notable as John Varley's 1977 The Ophiuchi Hotline, James Tiptree, Jr.'s 1978 Up the Walls of the World and Hal Clement's 1978 Through the Eye of a Needle weren't best-sellers. While the last mentioned books have had a lot of subsequent press, The World Is Round has not.  Although the author says on his website To my embarrassment, in terms of sales, The World is Round has remained my most successful book. that does not make it a best-seller, except as with respect to him. --Bejnar (talk) 05:56, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I neglected to mention Gore Vidal's 1978 sci-fi novel Kalki which did have a New York Times review and Anne McCaffrey's 1978 sci-fi/fantasy The White Dragon which did eventually make the best-seller list. --Bejnar (talk) 06:15, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
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