Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Worlds Freshest (Dj.Fresh)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. The article needs a merciless cleanup, and especially requires someone to insert its single best argument for notability -- the XXL reference pointed out by DA1. But first and foremost the article needs to be moved from its patently ridiculous name to something more appropriate per WP:MOS. I may do that myself after finishing the close.  A  Train talk 11:21, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

The Worlds Freshest (Dj.Fresh)

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Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:MUSICBIO. The article uses self-published sources and blogs to support notability. Reliable secondary sources make trivial mention to the musician, and a search online for secondary sources brought back more trivial mention. I have been unable to confirm the claim that Miracle & Nightmare on 10th Street ever charted. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:26, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep On a very quick online search on the artist I was able to find 3 sources, , that meet WP:MUSICBIO #1. Though the current article is not well sourced—probably due to inexperience from the author—I don't feel there was enough research before requesting its deletion: it could still be worked upon Wapunguissa (talk) 15:02, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The first two sources you listed are interviews, which are considered primary sources. WP:GNG states that sources should be secondary. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:52, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep The article needs some work, a lot of cleanup, but the subject is 'notable' enough. He was recently included on XXL magazine's 30 of the Best Hip-Hop Producers of 2016, should be noted. – DA1 (talk) 04:41, 4 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 05:43, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947 (c)  22:32, 20 April 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment WP:NMUSIC #1 criteria I cited earlier says "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself." It refers "independent" in the sense of "The published works must be someone else writing about the musician, ensemble, composer, or lyricist, or their works." On the links I gave The Fader, and Noisey are independed publications, and they found the subject notable enough to write about him and interview him. They are not self-released they are top music publications. The fact that those are interviews and thus "primary source" is another issue. Interviews says interviews may countain both primary and secondary sources. Secondary sources is when the interviewer talks about the artist, and both "interviews" do have a small introduction where they do. The third article—which was not contested—is by XXL (magazine) which is on of the main hip-hop publications in the US---one of the main publications in the subject's field finds him notable enough to write about him: I still defend keep Wapunguissa (talk) 22:59, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:52, 27 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete under WP:G5. Created by sockpuppet .--Mr. Guye (talk) 19:41, 30 April 2017 (UTC)


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