Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Yogscast


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Don't see the sources offered in this discussion as significant coverage in reliable sources, because of the frequent recreations will salt J04n(talk page) 09:56, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

The Yogscast

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YouTube podcast/show of dubious notability, other than a large number of views. Repeatedly recreated after many deletions - see logs for this page, as well as The YogPod, The yogscast, and Yogscast. No significant coverage found from independent third party publications. MikeWazowski (talk) 13:09, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Back again? speedy delete A7 - UtherSRG (talk) 14:18, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, if popularity isn't a reason, might I ask why SO MANY other Youtubers have a Wikipedia Page? Or Models, Actors and the like? Models don't MAKE clothing, actors don't MAKE movies, there is no reason whatsoever, on why they have a Wikipedia page. My theory is that they pay Wikipedia to be on here, but I can't prove that.

Furthermore, if The Yogscast can't have a Wikipedia page, then why can I have a mention somewhere? Even if it is completely false? MY name has been on here for 2,5 years. With false information, no source and no description at all. It's just there, somewhere on Wikipedia, placed there as a joke, by a friend. Now that is something that shouldn't be here.

And here what I wrote earlier:

"This page should not be speedy deleted because...

First of all, if this isn't 'important' or 'significant' then why are there actors on Wikipedia? What have they done that makes them deserve a page, even if all they have done is being featured in ONE episode of ONE show? And what about other internet 'celebrities'? Totalbiscuit has a page, Huskystarcraft and HDstarcraft hava pages, Smosh has a page, RayWilliamJohnson has a page, and countless more have them. Why are THEY ALLOWED to have one, and The Yogscast not?

Pretty soon (probably within a month), they'll enter the top 100 most subscribed channel on YouTube, if that doesn't warrant a page, then what does? They have arguably helped in the sales of the game Minecraft and Magicka enormously, thanks to their popularity (which is still growing, as evidenced by the fact that their subscriber count on Youtube has risen by 2,000 since yesterday). Not to mention the fact that I myself bought Magicka because I saw them having so much fun.

Other then that, they do charity events at times, which by itself should also be enough of a reason.

Exactly what reason do YOU (the person who tagged this for speedy deletion) have, to remove this? On a final note, this page isn't complete yet, why can't you just wait for a week? That's why I tagged it as a 'newpage'."

I am the creator of this article. Nielsthomas1 (talk) 14:59, 19 June 2011 (UTC) — Nielsthomas1 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep Plenty of precedent for similar sites. They have more viewers than Super Bowl XLII. As for coverage:   I don't really have time to look for more now, but that's a start. -- Selket Talk 19:36, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions.  MrKIA11 (talk) 00:57, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - lacks significant coverage from reliable sources. I couldn't find much of anything that covered the cast. Views and hits don't equal notability. Coverage by reliable news sources are what's needed. --Teancum (talk) 13:24, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete or redirect to some podcast list or another. I found a few quick mentions on WoW Insider, some press releases on Gamasutra, some forum chatter. Popularity is not notability. Popularity will help the topic be picked up by secondary sources, but this hasn't significantly happened here yet. "might I ask why SO MANY other Youtubers have a Wikipedia Page?" - Wikipedia is freely editable, and those pages haven't yet been discussed? Marasmusine (talk) 12:20, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * no speedy delete I declined speedy delete as importance is claimed with large number of viewers, more than the typical Utube article that gets deleted here. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:29, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Obvious keep // Gargaj (talk) 20:05, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per Teancum. We don't keep articles based on unverifiable speculation (i.e. "will become popular"), and we need more than just "hits", as they are also unreliable indicators of notability. –MuZemike 23:24, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - The reason why it may be non-notable is that The Yogscast is mainly only known to the Minecraft community. People outside this community and who don't know about Minecraft may not have heard about this group (with Lewis, BlueXephos, etc.), and therefore this is not completely notable. - M0rphzone 01:18, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
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