Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The best show on WFMU

Re: The best show on WFMU Non-notable local radio program. Poorly capitalized title, last paragraph ends in mid-sentence. RickK 05:34, Aug 17, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable worldwide radio program. anthony (see warning) 20:57, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. No reason this can't be incorporated into WFMU. Gamaliel 05:37, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: The information should be in WFMU.  Thing is, it's well known, sort of, in New York, which automatically gives it a listenership that the #1 station in Bismark would envy.  However, it's a specialist audience there and has not broken out to national syndication (as "Morning Becomes Eclectic" has, e.g.).  No standing on its own. Geogre 13:41, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * [Vote left on VfD main page & mvd here, so it shows up in sequence and is visible to those previewing their edits:]
 * Keep. This entry is full of accurate and well-written information for a radioshow that has a large listenership around the world (courtesy of popular webcasts). The show is popular enough to merit an official website devoted to it that is not sponsored by the radio station it appears on (WFMU). --Trailofmusic 05:20, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC) [struck thru as accidental duplicate; see below]
 * Keep: 1.  "New York" is a pretty big city.  2.  I am in Concord CA and I listen to the show.  3.  I rarely listen to any other show on WFMU.  4.  Poor Capitlization Does Not Make Something Not Relevant Or Not True. 5.  Morning Becomes Eclectic is not that eclectic anyway. jaypaulw 13:30, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * This is the above editor's only posting. RickK 04:32, Aug 19, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. This entry is full of accurate and well-written information for a radioshow that has a large listenership around the world (courtesy of popular webcasts).  The show is popular enough to merit an official website devoted to it that is not sponsored by the radio station it appears on (WFMU).--Trailofmusic 03:44, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * This is the above user's only posting. RickK 04:31, Aug 19, 2004 (UTC)
 * No, there's another one (identical) on WP:VFD itself. Maybe I should start to vote on principle against articles defended by sockpuppets? Abstain for now. -- Jmabel 05:48, Aug 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * I didn't see the first entry appear so I tried again, it's gone now.--Trailofmusic 06:16, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * It was on the main VfD, then moved here, then confusingly deleted by ToM, and now back but stuck thru (as a dupe) in order to keep the references to it clear. --Jerzy(t) 17:50, 2004 Aug 20 (UTC)
 * Yes, trail of music and I are virtualy slaves of the young man who wrote the entry. I'd actually expect you'd have more 'keep' responses, if adding them weren't such a relatively difficult process.  Check out www.friendsoftom.com and go to the messageboard jaypaulw 09:16, 20 Aug 2004 (PDT)
 * That difficulty is benign in this case, as it impedes and exposes those with no real grasp of what we are doing at WP. --Jerzy(t) 17:50, 2004 Aug 20 (UTC)
 * It impedes and exposes those who do not wish to learn how to contribute and opinion. It is possible to both have a "grasp of what [you] are doing at WP" and to not know how to contribute an opinion. Jaypaulw 22:46, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * OK, now I've read it. The way it's written is very unencyclopedic. I don't care all that much, but if it were up to me, I'd send it to cleanup first and then decide if it deserves its own article or should be merged into the station. And if it's kept, capitalize the title correctly. -- Jmabel 05:57, Aug 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep -- give it time. This show has an active community.
 * No vote yet on deletion, but if kept, rename, del or WP:RfD the resulting confusingly titled and PoV redir, and WP:CU.  Google evidence could push me either direction. --Jerzy(t) 17:50, 2004 Aug 20 (UTC)
 * [Delete]Not even when I was new here did I write such a POV page. The closest I remember was Carlos Monzon, but not even that came even close to this one as far as POV. (The Monzon page was fixed, BTW). The writer looks like he came out of a pile of mud the way he talks, there are bad words there and for all we know, it could be that Tom dude writing, to try to get attention for his show. Delete ...pronto! "Antonio Pronto Porno Martin"
 * Why not google "best show on WFMU" and see if Tom Scharpling would need WP for publicity. Also, since Tom Scharpling is a professional writer, it would be very odd, if he were submitting on his own behalf, to not submit a perfectly written initial entry.  Jaypaulw 165.247.221.211 04:37, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Note that Jaypaulw has only posted to this page. RickK 05:56, Aug 23, 2004 (UTC)
 * His point is still valid, even if he has only posted to this page. anthony (see warning) 21:19, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * But his vote is not counted. RickK 05:02, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)
 * I was not able to locate in wikipedia the basis for my vote not being counted. Futhermore, upon reading the rules for what merits a deletion, I do not see non-notability listed as reason something can be deleted.  Additionally, the show is notable, as any effort to determine such will show. Jaypaulw 05:52, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Del. No cogent reasons offered against suggestion to cover in station's article instead. --Jerzy(t) 07:39, 2004 Aug 24 (UTC)
 * Note that there is now a duplicate article at "The Best Show on WFMU" (different capitalization) -Vina 22:03, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

This debate is now closed. Results: 4 delete 2 keep (2 keeps discarded for insufficient previous edits) Result: delete. DJ Clayworth 21:18, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)