Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The dismissed Finnish Missionary Society employee


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The result was delete. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:35, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

The dismissed Finnish Missionary Society employee

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A fork of Prosecutor v. Ruokanen. Fails WP:CRIME: "A person who is known only in connection with a criminal event or trial should not normally be the subject of a separate Wikipedia article if there is an existing article that could incorporate the available encyclopedic material relating to that person."

NB: there is an alarming number of forks on Suspicions of pedophilia in the Finnish dormitory in Taichung. Closely related articles have appeared by single-purpose accounts. It is my opinion that the notability is best established on a case per case basis so I'm not nominating others for the time being - but sockpuppet issues can be looked into. Finnusertop (talk &#124; guestbook &#124; contribs) 13:21, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Finnusertop (talk &#124; guestbook &#124; contribs) 12:53, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
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 * Strong Delete, but I heavily disagree on your case per case basis on nominating. The other forks should have been bundled with this nomination, in my opinion, as they are related to each other, and they have been made by the user accounts almost certainly related to each other. I am extremely concerned on the fact that the over-quotation epidemic on these articles may violate copyright laws. I have tried to exterminate most of the quotes in Suspicions of pedophilia in the Finnish dormitory in Taichung, which may damage value of the books (or other works) in question. I am referring to WP:COPYQUOTE. However, just a few hours ago, some of the material I removed from resurfaced in this another fork: . At most, the Prosecutor v. Ruokanen and the Suspicions of pedophilia in the Finnish dormitory in Taichung may stay. All other forks should be deleted. Ceosad (talk) 13:29, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:44, 30 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge with other article forks on the topic. The article seems to have been painstakingly written so that it avoids committing the Finnish crime of kunnianloukkaus, i.e. criminal libel. As our non-Finnish editors are able to write about the issue without that in mind, we should mention the name of the person being discussed. (I will not make that edit, for I might become criminally liable.) At the same time, we should merge this with other articles on the pedophilia scandal in the Taichung dormitory. BTW, we have about the same articles being created at fi-Wikipedia. The dormitory itself might be notable, and as the peophilia scandal attracted national attention the scandal is definitely notable, but a single article should suffice. --MPorciusCato (talk) 17:23, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Please note that the related articles have been recently proposed for speedy deletion and blanked by users Kotivalo and Dthomsen8 per WP:G10. Finnusertop (talk &#124; guestbook &#124; contribs) 18:03, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I noticed that those articles were created on Finnish Wikipedia too, but I had hoped to somewhat rework and rewrite at least one of them here on English Wikipedia. I would have argued on whether The Finnish dormitory in Taichung or Suspicions of pedophilia in the Finnish dormitory in Taichung should have stayed, but as most of those pages have been blanked as attack pages, I will wait before touching this reeking Taiwanese dunghill, as one of the quotes infamously said on one of the pages. I am not sure of the dormitory's notability on its own. The pedophilia case as a national scandal was notable on its own though. Ceosad (talk) 18:33, 31 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Wikipedia is not a WP:SOAPBOX. Kraxler (talk) 14:44, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as an unnecessary soapbox and an inappropriate article to have about a very minor living person. Meanwhile, somebody should take a look at the huge bloated mess that is The Finnish dormitory in Taichung and reduce it by about 80%. There is way, way too much trivial detail about daily life in the dormitory and such. --MelanieN (talk) 16:20, 6 August 2015 (UTC)


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