Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The holland hotel


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non admin closure) Valoem   talk   contrib  23:21, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

The holland hotel

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No evidence of notability. Refs are own web-site and one from a ghost investigation - nothing notable there. Reads like a promo piece.  Velella  Velella Talk 16:32, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Agree with above- delete. Also, if kept, it would need to be redirected to The Holland Hotel. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:41, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Hello. I updated all the links, so that none point back to the property. I do agree that it should be under The Holland Hotel and am trying to fix it. Nvanwinden (talk) 17:00, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment Adding The Holland Hotel, duplicate article created at proper address. Should this AFD result in a keep, the new article should be deleted to make way for a move of the original article. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:02, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Comment So, should I delete The Holland Hotel, or can we delete The holland hotel? Nvanwinden (talk) 17:06, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The article should exist at The Holland Hotel, but since you created The holland hotel first, that is technically the article we should keep. To manage this, The Holland Hotel would be deleted and The holland hotel would be moved to the proper title. But that's a fair amount of work for an article that may be deleted. I'll leave it to an admin to decide whether the title mixup should be fixed now, or wait until the AFD has run its course. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:54, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Deletion of The holland hotel redlinks the AFD heading and that could cause confusion. On reflection, it is best to leave things as they are and sort them after the AFD has been closed. Just Chilling (talk) 23:32, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

My argument for KEEP is as follows. The Holland Hotel was designed by the architect, Henry Trost of Trost and Trost who was internationally renown for his work all over the southwest in the late 1800s and early 1900s. He is believed to be one of the most significant architects of his time in the region. The design for the Wikipedia page was taken from several notable nearby Trost and Trost hotels, such as El Paisano Hotel or the Gadsden Hotel.

The Holland Hotel is instrumental in anchoring the town of Alpine and is even mentioned on the Alpine, Texas Wikipedia page. It is a Texas Historic Landmark, adding to its "notability".

Of interest to believers in the paranormal, several ghost investigations have been done and the Holland Hotel has been featured on several TV shows, which I am sure another user would be able to add, however the ghost sightings are founded and a paranormal study from Austin, Texas linked in the footnotes.

Nvanwinden (talk) 17:44, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:27, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Keep Given Nvanwinden's explanation that this place is registered as a State Historic Place, and is notable among those who put credence in such things as a haunted place that has been showcased on television programs, I'd say that its notability is sufficiently established. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:26, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:41, 1 May 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:00, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - good initial nomination, but I think it has now been improved to show notability.--Rpclod (talk) 04:57, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Inclined more towards keep - I live on the eastern side of Texas so I'm not familiar with this but a Texas Historic Site makes me inclined towards keep. SwisterTwister   talk  06:28, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.