Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The posture theory


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The result was Delete. --Fang Aili talk 01:46, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

The posture theory

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Theory of health promulgated by one author in one book. Not recognised by health scientists in general. Limited support from authoritative sources (no results on PubMed beyond the 1980 paper. Delete. JFW | T@lk  21:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC) Do not delete  This could help a lot of people!```
 * Speedy delete as a copyright violation. Simple refactoring of this page. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 21:35, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as original research edited by single-purpose account. Speedy if copyvio is confirmed. --Blanchardb- Me  MyEarsMyMouth-timed 21:40, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as copyvio per Hoekstra, so tagged. Ten Pound Hammer  • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 21:46, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Speedy or slow. Non-notable in any case. Tim Ross ·talk  22:47, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, WP:FRINGE, WP:OR. Bearian (talk) 00:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as one guy's theory. Someguy1221 (talk) 03:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 04:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Do not delete Permission was given. The word hypochondrium means “upper abdomen” and I determined that the symptoms of hypochondria were caused by postural compression of the upper abdomen. Hippocrates made similar observations in “On Joints” XL1-XL2. which were consistent with the health problems of seventeenth century hunchback hypochondriac Alexander Pope - Collier’s Encyclopedia (1962) Vol.19 p.241-242. I am the author of the theory, fifteen essays in the Austrasian Nurses Journal between 1978 and 83, and since then 100 letters and items in Australian newspapers and magazines, and a 1000 page book.   M.A.Banfield  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Posturewriter (talk • contribs) 01:59, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment. Did anyone who isn't you, and didn't collaborate with you, ever publish on this theory?  The ideas of a single person typically don't merit a Wikipedia article, unless the ideas are notable, and that requires it be commented on in multiple reliable sources that you didn't author.  Someguy1221 (talk) 07:14, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Reply. Edited to include dates: My medical theories have been independently reviewed; In The Scientific Australian "Does Glandular Damage Play a Role in those Psychosomatic Cases", by editor D.J.Cook, Dec. 1977 p.34-35. The Posture Theory was discussed in an illustrated feature article "Posture and Illness" by the editor of the South Australian 'Statewide' newspaper on 8-12-94 p.13. That theory was reviewed by David Raftery in the  Adelaide University students newspaper “On Dit”, 27-3-95 p.33, and in The Skeptic (magazine) (Australian), Problems With Posture, by Laurie Eddy, Vol.20 no.1 Autumn 2000 p.60-63. http://www.skeptics.com.au/journal/2000/2000.htm  I added my comments in "Response to Posture" in the Forum section of The Skeptic (Australian) Vol.21 no.4 p.63-64. http://www.skeptics.com.au/journal/2001/2001.htm   There were others but I have no record of them. My research on the physical aspects of chronic fatigue at The South Australian Institute for Research and Training was prompted by the failure of all previous studies internationally with the comment “these patients would not, or could not train” because of their “fear of exercise”. Six volunteers completed six months of training in the programme that I designed, and one completed a six mile marathon. That study was reported in major Austalian newspapers including The Adelaide News,  SA Study Matches Russian Results, 20-10-82 p.18, The West Australian, Cause of Mystery Disease Found, 22-8-83 p.34, The Bribane Courier Mail, Researchers Solve Mystery, 20-8-83 p.14l, and The Sydney Morning Herald, Illness Traced to Emotional Trauma, 20-8-83 p.3. That study was completed ten to fifteen years before the Australian Medical Association officially recognised Chronic fatigue syndrome as a real illness (in the mid 90's). At one stage I owned 300 medical books and had access to the Adelaide Univerity Barr Smith Medical Library and international research journals through Index Medicus, and my book on the theory is supported by 100 references. When Australia’s greatest scientist, Sir Mark Oliphant, was living in Adelaide, I asked him to get me an independent academic opinion on The Posture Theory and he told me that his medical colleagues, amongst the top in the country, thought it was interesting but they couldn't give an opinion on it because that whole area of medicine was a pandoras box of mystery and contradiction. The complexity makes it mysterious, and scrutiny makes it axiomatic. My protagonist has provided wikipedia with an excellent one page account of the primary aspect of DaCosta’s syndrome. ref: DaCosta J.M. (January 1871) “On Irritable Heart”, The American Journal of the Medical Sciences ref: Charles F. Wooley M.D. Where are the Diseases of Yesteryear, DaCosta’s Syndrome; Effort Syndrome; Neurocirculatory Asthenia: Circulation 1976: 53: 749-751   http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/vol53/issue5/      For the neurocirculatory effects of postural compression of the chest cavity consider this: Valsalva Maneuver  For the consequences of compressing the waist refer to: Limner L. Esq. (1874) Madre Natura Versus the Moloch of Fashion, 4th edition Chatto and Windus, Picadilly, London, p.70-73. also see Hourglass corset, 1900s in fashion and History of corsets      A fuller account can be readily accessed on line at http://users.chariot.net.au/~posture/index.html      Posturewriter (talk)


 * Comments. We just need dates, titles (and most preferably links to online versions of all of this) so it can actually be verified that everything you said is true.  I can only verify myself that which is available online. If these verifying materials are not available online, I suggest taking the same information I have just requested to either Wikipedi:WikiProject Medicine or WikiProject Australia to request assistance. Someguy1221 00:02, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Response. Dates and titles have been added as requested, and online links included where possible. Newspaper articles prior to 1984 are not available online but they can be verified, presumably by phoning or emailing the editors of the newspapers next Monday to Friday. For example, Sydney Morning Herald News inquiries:newsdesk@smh.com.au  or phone +61 (02) 9282 2833. However that may not be possible, in which case the articles will be available in the respective State Library newspaper collections, by visiting those libraries. The South Australian reports were prepared by "News" jounalist Diane Beer who's articles assisted with the recruiting of volunteers for about 1 to 2 years? The interstate items were written by a Melbourne based freelance journalist whose name I haven't recorded and had no byline. The facts were verified with the Institute before publication as state newspapers require authoritative confirmation of sources as a prerequisite. If any further verification is required by wikipedia editors in relation to this matter please let me know. Posturewriter (talk)


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