Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The ten families


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus is against deletion. The question of renaming can be discussed on the article talk page. Ad Orientem (talk) 00:33, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

The ten families

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No sources, and I can't find any evidence of this term existing beyond this Wikipedia article. Blitzcream (talk) 17:42, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:53, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:54, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

*Delete: I can't find any evidence that these royal families are linked together in any way besides the surname; searching "the ten families" on Google wields zero hits that pertain to this subject. ToThAc (talk) 05:30, 20 October 2018 (UTC) See below. ToThAc (talk) 15:32, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: While I agree that the 'ten families' is an odd grouping and I've never heard of it either, if you add the Al Sauds, move the page to 'Ruling Families of the Arabian Gulf', or 'Ruling families of the GCC', you've got a decent grouping of practical utility. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:02, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename per Alexandermcnabb. —Cote d&#39;Azur (talk) 08:57, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename per Alexandermcnabb. The totally made-up name the article currently has unfortunately made it difficult to search for the credibility of the subject on Google. ToThAc (talk) 15:32, 20 October 2018 (UTC)


 * commentWhat's better here then? A list article or a category? It'd need to be called 'ruling families of the Arab states of the Persian gulf' to stop the nationalist crazies on both sides coming after it...

There's already an article for the UAE ones, who make up 70% of the listBlitzcream (talk) 18:42, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
 * , you might want to respond to this comment. ToThAc (talk) 04:06, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping. "Ruling Families of the Arab States of the Persian Gulf" works for me. Well, inasmuch as we are stuck with that phraseology. It's certainly better than deleting the list, IMHO. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:22, 21 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete as unsourced WP:OR. Renaming it as suggested by Alexandermcnabb may result in it having a better name, but it'll still be totally unsourced, and thus failing WP:V.  If somebody comes up with sources, I'd be happy with the rename, but without sources, I don't see how we can keep it, under any title.  -- RoySmith (talk) 00:31, 27 October 2018 (UTC)


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