Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The three pillars of the Shia


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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 08:07, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

The three pillars of the Shia

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This appears to be original research - the article does not cite sources to show that these clerics are referred to as "the 3 pillars of the Shia". The sources are all offline, so I'm not able to check them. This therefore appears to be a neologism or original research. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:42, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * This article is also available in Persian Wikipedia. There are three important figure of Shia Islam, and I wanted to introduce these people to the whole world. ..--        felestin1714 (talk) 19:06, 21 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment It may be original research, but it may be something important about the three men mentioned. The grammar is very poor.--DThomsen8 (talk) 22:14, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * In the case of these three important man endurance and resistance to oppression. ..--felestin1714 (talk) 19:22, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  06:58, 17 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment - I'm not fully understanding this as this page now redirects to The three main Marja but FWIW my searches found nothing good. SwisterTwister   talk  06:59, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * keep Title changed and should be discussed under a new title. As the discussion paper should be changed. There is also this article on Wikipedia Persian. All content of the article is based on reliable sources..--felestin1714 (talk) 18:45, 16 September 2015 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.170.51.124 (talk)
 * Comment There is no practical real difference in titles "three Pillars of the Shia" or "three main Marja", it is irrelevant. Pillars is what I have heard more used. These men however, are respected, but many kids for example do not even know them. They are dead anyway, for over hundred years all of them. The article is funny because is literal translation of word by word at least parts. I do not know if this qualifies reliable source: http://www.imam-khomeini.ir/fa/n21028/%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%88%DB%8C%D8%B3_%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C_%D8%A7%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B9_%D8%B1%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C/%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%AE/%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%85_%D8%AE%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86%DB%8C_%D9%88_%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9_%D8%AB%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AB but is a good source to translate from. Least can be done is change years to Western value, such as 1908, 1911, 1912... --TilsafBird (talk) 06:10, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Article is not funny. It is necessary to recognize the Clergymen.It is true that they are dead. But understanding them in necessary for all human being. ..--felestin1714 (talk) 18:50, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I think TilsafBird means "funny" in the sense of "peculiar", not "humorous". JohnCD (talk) 21:46, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The editors voting "keep" are reminded that !votes need to be based in policy, please see WP:AFD and WP:GNG. Randykitty (talk) 14:05, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 14:05, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. North America1000 23:57, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. North America1000 23:58, 23 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Per WP:TNT the article is completely incoherent and unreadable. The article creator does not have the WP:COMPETENCY to write in coherent English. I know people say AfD isn't cleanup and all, but there is article is completely unreadable and unless made vaguely readable has no place in an encyclopedia. Brustopher (talk) 00:11, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * There article just need a little editing. Remove the Article is too much. Have you voted for on the basis of prejudice? ..--         felestin1714 (talk) 17:26, 26 September 2015 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.170.51.164 (talk)
 * I am basing my vote on the fact that the article is impossible to read. If I could make some sense of it I would have done the editing myself. I'm sorry but you really need to improve your english writing skills before trying to write detailed encyclopedia articles like this. Also who am I meant to be prejudiced against in this situation? Brustopher (talk) 14:04, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I think with a little editing of the Article reaches the desired state ..--        felestin1714 (talk) 18:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:TNT. I'm sorry, felestin1714, but I agree with Brustopher: I cannot understand the article. (Is it perhaps a machine translation?) If (but only if) there are reliable sources which refer to these three as "The three main Marja", it needs to be rewritten from a clean sheet by someone more fluent in English. JohnCD (talk) 21:08, 29 September 2015 (UTC)


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 * ok — Preceding unsigned comment added by Felestin1714 (talk • contribs) 16:41, 1 October 2015 (UTC)