Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Theory of Others


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 12:39, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Theory of Others

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Reasons for deletion:
 * For over a month, the article has been tagged as not meeting Wikipedia's notability requirements and as unverifiable, yet no changes have been made to improve it.
 * Specifically, it has proven difficult to find any information to verify the article's content because the term 'Theory of Others' does not appear to be used much elsewhere.
 * The external link to the person who is supposed to have coined the term (Dr. Raka Shome) is dead (page not found).
 * In theory this topic should be relevant to WikiProject Philosophy, however, a discussion thread started over one month ago there has not produced any support for it. Shanata (talk) 11:27, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philosophy-related deletion discussions.  —Shanata (talk) 11:49, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * comment I found Dr Raka Shome's webpage in archive.org; it was last updated in Feb. 2008, so I've updated the article. Not sure at all about the subject matter being relevant to WikiProject Philosophy; - Political Science; Media and Commnications, Feminist Theory or Socialogy are all possibilities. There does seem to be an awful lot of references, published before 1994 and therefore unlikely to be on the internet.Edgepedia (talk) 14:01, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm glad that you were able to find this page. As you'll note, the phrase 'theory of others', which the current article attributes to Dr. Raka Shome, doesn't even appear on Dr. Raka Shome's webpage.  This seems to indicate that even the person who is supposed to have coined the terminology doesn't find it to be sufficiently notable for inclusion on her webpage. Shanata (talk) 00:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * She does seem to be cited on google scholar . A primary source for this theory can be found here. Edgepedia (talk) 16:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't see any mention of the Theory of Others in this source. Shanata (talk) 00:42, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sociology-related deletion discussions. Edgepedia (talk) 19:49, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Dr Raka Shome's is still listed as on the staff at LSE The staff page link doesn't work. Edgepedia (talk) 11:42, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * A search for the term theory of others on the LSE website does not seem to produce any links suggesting that this theory is notable, either. Shanata (talk) 07:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Someone set up this as an parody of the article on the Other, and inverted the meaning of the theory. Sorry, I don't have time to explain more, I can add the details after Wednesday this week.--Ducio1234 (talk) 01:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * At the moment this article does look like a content fork of Other, and I was thinking that we need to merge some of this into that article. However, this is outside my expertise and if this is shown to be wrong, or even a parody, I would vote to delete it. Edgepedia (talk) 09:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SYN. Stifle (talk) 14:07, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, at best this is a tendentious article redundant to the far superior article on Other, which appears to be much the same thing. The hypothesis of the "theory",  which proposes that neocolonialism, racism, and all manner of stereotype are perpetuated in rhetorical studies and everyday life when groups or cultures not native to dominant white men and their sphere of influence are engaged is either quite shallow if this kind of discourse means something to you, or patent nonsense otherwise. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You are exactly right, Theory of Others is patent nonsense. The Other doesn't accurately describe the theory behind the idea, but Edward Said in Orientalism (book) first used the concept of the other as a way to explain how the West understands and subjugates the Orient through this process by creating a sense of otherness or separation. Homi Bhabha, who is cited in Theory of Others took that idea and applied it Colonialization. Bhabha tried to explain that Western countries created a false sense of otherness in the countries that were colonized. His intention was to understand this process so that colonized people and their societies could come to reposition themselves as equal in the world.
 * I suppose the article is not exactly a parody, but User:Tvmogul presents a false view of the idea, as theory of others is not "the discipline of rhetorical studies" and it was not Dr. Raka Shome who originated the idea. Theory of Others is a major over simplification and of the ideas. There are other reasons to delete this page, as it's not clear and there already exists an article on this topic.--Ducio1234 (talk) 17:00, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - no mention in reliable sources on google scholar, google books, plain google turns up wikipedia mirrors and one 2008 thesis. This idea has not caught on and it is inappropriate to have an article on it until it does.  Wikipedia is not on the leading edge of anything, we trail behind other sources.  11:25, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as a content fork of Other, with nothing worth merging per Smerdis of Tlön and Ducio1234. Edgepedia (talk) 11:45, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.