Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thirteenth Step (band) (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 01:31, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Thirteenth Step (band)
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Appears the only reliable source in this page is a Loudwire article about a Days of the New tour that doesn't even mention this band. Couldn't find anything additional, and nothing on this page suggests notability that I can see. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 01:38, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Kentucky. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 01:38, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Since I nominated the first go-round, please feel to disregard my position here. However, the last time, we got a "keep" mainly due to a "ridiculous number of refs". Well, as you can see from an analysis from the nominator (independent from me), it's not the number that's ridiculous. This band doesn't even have a listing on Discogs! As Discogs is a very thorough database of recorded music in my decade+ experience with that site, that means this band hasn't recorded anything of note. Since I nominated this article the first time, I've believed the Wikipedia is being played - we are being baffled with BS. There is practically no WP:GNG coverage of this band. It's cool they got to play on some tours, but where is the genuine secondary coverage (not just an artist roster line item) for that? Stefen Towers among the rest!   Gab • Gruntwerk 02:17, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I also want to note there are myriad bands from Louisville who are clearly notable and have released recordings. This hasn't proven to be one of those bands. Stefen Towers among the rest!   Gab • Gruntwerk 02:24, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hadn't thought to check Discogs, but since you mention it I checked Rate Your Music (also quite thorough) and the band isn't listed there either. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 02:36, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking there. Another note about Discogs. I run into bands there all the time who have put out any number of recordings, and some quite nice ones, yet still haven't been considered notable for having articles here. So the idea of having an article here for a band who hasn't been proven to produce a darn thing is a head-scratcher. Stefen Towers among the rest!   Gab • Gruntwerk 02:47, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Pretty much all of those sources are primary and/or unreliable in some sort of way. This article has a disturbing amount of maintenance tags, and I just don't think anybody is going to fix that any time soon. —asparagusus   (interaction)  sprouts!  16:28, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I actually had the tab open on my browser to address some of those tags, but it would basically involve the nuclear option, after which I would find what both 1st and 2nd noms found, that all the provided sources are routine/promo. So delete is best. Jdcooper (talk) 12:04, 18 October 2023 (UTC)


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