Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/This I Promise You (Ronan Keating song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Bring You Home. (non-admin closure) Alpha_Quadrant    (talk)  22:07, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

This I Promise You (Ronan Keating song)

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Non notable song. Directly per the article "The song failed to chart on the UK Singles Chart, and also failed to achieve any success in Ireland." Gaijin42 (talk) 16:31, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 16:43, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

But the song charted in Ireland, so it is notable. MusicCollector17 (talk) 18:10, 7 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.162.193 (talk)

From the policy : Notability aside (which is borderline in this case), a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album Gaijin42 (talk) 18:31, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Have added a review of the single as part of the critical reception section and have wrote a description of the music video. Have also added verification for it's Irish chart position and updated the tracklisting. User86 08:06, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to parent album Bring You Home per WP:NSONGS: "a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album". Till I Go Home (talk) 09:51, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

And what did i just say above? Does anybody on this page actually read? User86 15:44, 9 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Avoid personal attacks. ok, so the reference for the chart you linked does not include that song anywhere in its content, so that is not currently WP:V. It does indicate the album charted, so that article is safe. In any case, the article indicated that it was the "Irish Chart", but the site says it tracks the "UK Chart", so it is not backing up the chart item in question in any case.   The review is good, but I'm not sure if one review, on a music blog (albeit a fairly professionally done one) satisfies WP:N or WP:MUSIC but I will let others weigh in on that. The description of the video is mostly WP:OR but I would let that slide assuming the other criteria are met.
 * No need to get snappy with other editors here, the appropriate SNG has already been outlined, and the review you have provided does not appear to be from a reliable source. Till I Go Home (talk) 03:54, 10 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete as lacking in-depth coverage in reliable, independent third-party sources. Should such sources be integrated into the article, feel free to leave a note on my talk page and I'll take another look. Stuartyeates (talk) 00:15, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TigerShark (talk) 15:10, 17 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge and Redirect to the album. Lack of coverage means we don't have enough for a standalone article, and the details here can be covered in the album article.--Michig (talk) 15:27, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect or merge to the album. This fluffed up article has almost no info worth preserving that is not already contained in album article. I have deleted the "Charts" section from the article, as the source provided contradicted the claim made. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 19:37, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Bring You Home - The song is not notable in itself; policy suggests we should redirect to the album, as an article on that exists. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 20:12, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.