Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/This Romantic Tragedy


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Odd AFD. I'm going to just go ahead and count everything after the relist as a change in consensus. v/r - TP 02:37, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

This Romantic Tragedy

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Fails WP:BAND, no full length album even released yet, and only trivial coverage I'll also WP:A9 the albums when/if this article is deleted C T J F 8 3  chat 06:03, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:42, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable: Fails WP:MUS and WP:GNG. Probably auto-biographical as well, orignal author is a single-issue editor, User:Trtmusic: This Romantic Tragedy... Coincidence? Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 15:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, he/she's been blocked for having a promotional user name. Rehevkor ✉  16:09, 20 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete . I can't find enough coverage to support an article, never mind addressing the notability issues. A search through 20 pages of Google results came up with 0 usable sources that I could see. I am a fan, but I can see they're not notable. They sucked since ditching their singer anyway. Rehevkor ✉  16:08, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:29, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisting comment. I closed this AFD last year but I'm reopening this AFD per this request on my talk page. It seems that they have released their first album and it has charted. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:31, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * That seems like an odd thing to do...reopen an old AfD. C T J F 8 3  02:32, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Not really. Though this is the oldest AFD I have reopened the same guidelines apply and since this AFD only had 3 participants and they're all still active, I thought I would give them a chance to reconsider new information here instead of at DRV. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 21:17, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm okay with it. The rationale behind reopening the AFD is that the band charted at #26 on the Billboard Heatseakers Chart. My feeling is that this does not satisfy criterion #2 of WP:MUS: "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart." By its very definition, the Heatseakers Album Chart does not chart acts that have appeared in the top 100 of the national music chart. However, I would imagine the band may have generated additional press that might satisfy WP:GNG or may satisfy WP:MUS in some other way. So Neutral for now.  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  21:21, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm not sure Heatseakers really counts here, as it gives weight only to new/"developing" acts it's hard to tell how much of an achievement it actually is. Searching for sources coverage still doesn't give much. Some fairly minor stuff from Dead Press, Absolutepunk, reliable sources? There's an Allmusic review. Just not sure. It's a start I suppose..  Я ehevkor ✉  22:32, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sputnikmusic, IMP Magazine, Musicreview, Dead Press, AllMusic (Reviews) and AbsolutePunk (Tour announcement). That is enough. Keep and not deletee --Goroth (talk) 17:02, 4 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Ron Ritzman (talk) 21:25, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Ron Ritzman (talk) 21:25, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 19:11, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - Though the chart position itself did not convince me (as it was a seemingly non-notable chart), the recent sources provided by Goroth suggest notability. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 21:31, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Neutral. Struck old !vote above as it no longer applies but will default to neutral per my previous comments.  Я ehevkor ✉  16:51, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
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