Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas Ashworth

Appears to be imaginary. Google searches for "Thomas Ashworth" QBASIC and for "Thomas Ashworth" "train crash" find nothing about this. Dan Gardner 04:06, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment: Also unable to verify. I tried Dogpile's advanced search using "obituary Thomas Ashworth" with various qualifiers added to the search.  Unable to find obituaries for the proper time frame.  It is possible that  has better info than I can find, but I'm not a registered member.  SWAdair | Talk  06:42, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Also not imaginary. The train crash killed more than him, and it was major news a while ago, In both local newspapers and even a few national ones. Yes He also made good Qbasic games. I had the source code to some of them, but they got deleted a while ago. He also had a pokemon website, that is now dead. Thomas may be dead, but Jonathan and Ian are alive and well. So if this gets deleted, it will be on the basis of lack of google hits and not on facts from a person who knew him well. Krik 08:18, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Facts may be, but was he famous at all? We've already established that unless noteable people have died in an event ( go back to 9/11 memorial debates), just because they died in said event does not mean they are famous. I don't think we should be including Thomas here. Lyellin 09:02, Jun 28, 2004 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't this multiple-fatality train crash be listed on or  ? I was living in London in August of 2000, and fatal train crashes were big news at that time. &mdash;Stormie 04:44, Jun 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * I searched for the defunct pokemon website at the Wayback Machine on the Internet Archive and found nothing. As for the train crash, you say that it was in a few national newspapers.  Which ones and on which dates? Dan Gardner 13:20, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * User:Krik, the author of this page, deleted it from Vfd in a minor edit. Dan Gardner 17:39, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not even slightly famous.  Also Ian Renton should be listed. Morwen - Talk 06:21, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * But Ian Renton is more famous than Thomas. Krik 23:43, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. No evidence SECOS ever existed, no evidence Thomas Ashworth ever contributed any Linux kernel patches, and evidence that the train crash did not ever happen. &mdash;Stormie 04:44, Jun 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * I can't find evidence for the train crash happening, assuming it took place on the day he died. If this happened and was indeed national headline news, it should be quite straighforward to find it on news.bbc.co.uk  Hatfield happened in October 2000.  Ladbroke Grove happened in 1999.  Potters Bar was in 2002. Morwen - Talk 06:21, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * It wasn't national headline news. Not all train crashes make major news. It was published mostly in a few local bournemouth newspapers, which do not have websites.
 * In 2000, local papers had websites. If it didn't make the patrons of http://www.thisisbournemouth.co.uk/ then certainly nobody died in the event. unsigned comment by anon User:82.6.10.139
 * But it was said earlier by Krik that it was 'In both local newspapers and even a few national ones'. Please be consistent. Morwen - Talk 21:03, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * I'm not buying it. A fatal train crash no one has heard of? Delete because, one, it appears to be fake, and two, Wikipedia is not a place for memorials to your dead friends, even if they happen to be real. Sorry. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 21:58, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Checked back through BBC website's travel information pages for relevant period. No train accidents or related fatalities at this time. Neither do I recall such an incident happening and I take an interest in transport policy / activity. Delete. --VampWillow 19:15, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)