Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas Betzwieser


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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:31, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Thomas Betzwieser

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This article was de-PRODded by a user who argued that the gentleman is notable because he is a member of Akademie der Wissenschaften und der Literatur in Germany. But membership in a professional organization is not a source of notability for either musicians or creative professionals. Both of those guidelines require evidence of works that have received reliable and significant coverage, plus citations from peers in the case of creative professionals. All that can be found for this gentleman are routine listings in associations and industry directories, and a few comments that he has made on other people's works. That includes German sources too. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 15:40, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep, meets WP:NPROF item 3. No idea whether he is notable as a musician. (de-prodder) —Kusma (t·c) 15:51, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep, it's not a professional organisation, the Akademie der Wissenschaften und der Literatur falls under WP:NACADEMIC #3, "The person is or has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association". This academy has 3 classes, and up to 100 members only in each class. That is highly selective. RebeccaGreen (talk) 15:54, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - the academy seems to be selective enough to pass criterion 3 of the academic notability guidelines.  OxonAlex    - talk  18:06, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. I added one published review each of two books by him to the article. That's only enough for a weak case for WP:AUTHOR, but I think the case for WP:PROF is strong. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:27, 18 August 2019 (UTC)


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