Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas Bucher-Johannessen


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The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  14:06, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Thomas Bucher-Johannessen

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Skiing doesn't have an SNG, so we have to go by WP:SPORTCRIT/WP:GNG here. I don't think there's enough sources available to meet GNG, and I don't think he meets NSPORTS on the basis of his athletic achievements.

There are several dozen events with dozens of competitors at each FIS Nordic World Ski Championships, and the 2019 event was no exception. Bucher-Johannessen has participated in exactly one world cup event, and he didn't even crack the top 10. His rankings as summarized at the German article (de:Thomas_Bucher-Johannessen) aren't much better - he's 108th in World Cup ranking, for example. At best this is WP:TOOSOON given his age and the fact that he only started competing in 2019. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 00:04, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep, has finished 13th in the World Cup. "Didn't even crack the top 10" is a preposterous argument. Now it would be a different thing if he finished 50th or 70th, and Wikipedia has its fair amount of articles about skiers whose best results are just that, but every top 30 skier collects World Cup points which is the undoubtful benchmark in this sport. (World Cup has a higher standard than the World Championships or Olympics, since the WC and OG also is filled with South American or African skiers.) I'll even rake up more coverage but can't promise I'll do it before this evening. Geschichte (talk) 07:32, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 * He finished 13th in one event of several at part of the World Cup, it's not like he finished 13th overall through the whole year's World Cup. His actual World Cup ranking is 108th, which isn't that high in the grand scheme of things. In any case his ranking is technically immaterial given that there's no SNG for skiing that would rely on it (there ought to be one, but that's not a discussion for here). Instead we have to rely on coverage under GNG, which if you have any, by all means present it. What I found on a search were some articles in Budstikka (a local paper covering 2 municipalities) and a stats page on Langrenn.com (a cross country skiing website with limited audience). There just isn't enough breadth of coverage on the guy for a GNG pass. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 15:09, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, - Nahal (T) 21:43, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Doesn't appear to meet WP:GNG and I don't believe an overall ranking of 108th meets any criteria at WP:NSPORTS.  His highest ranking is 70th in distance events, again nothing to show WP notability.  Although not a WP notability criteria, I think career pro prize money earnings of 600 CHF says something about his pro success. Papaursa (talk) 04:32, 24 December 2019 (UTC)


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