Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas C. Griffin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Doolittle Raid. (non-admin closure) Mediran  ( t  •  c ) 01:45, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Thomas C. Griffin

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Redirect. This article was originally created as a redirect to Doolittle Raid, however an editor who has previously created multiple articles on Doolittle Raiders that have since been redirected back to the main list -, - expanded it to a full article. However, like the others previously redirected, Griffin is not notable enough for a standalone article; outside of the one event he fails to reach the levels of notability for such, failing WP:SOLDIER and WP:GNG. As he is only notable for the Doolittle Raid, the page should be restored to the redirect; I would simply have done so, but the creator's history is to continually revert attempts to do so with the label of vandalism so a full discussion is likely needed. The Bushranger One ping only 20:01, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. The Bushranger One ping only 20:03, 2 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect - clearly fails to meet notability for a stand-alone article. - Ahunt (talk) 20:08, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. The Bushranger One ping only 20:25, 2 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect per above. Yuffo (talk) 20:32, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete not really notable. MilborneOne (talk) 20:51, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above. EricSerge (talk) 20:57, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect - Doesn't appear to have notability outside of the raid.  Zappa  O  Mati   21:26, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Doolittle Raid, subject has received significant coverage from multiple non-primary reliable sources however most were after the individuals death, therefore WP:NOTMEMORIAL applies. All the reliable sources not that the subject of this AfD is notable for participating in the Doolittle Raid, therefore the subject is notable for participating in an WP:EVENT, and therefore falls under WP:BIO1E; thus as per BIO1E the Biography article should redirect to the event article. Although the subject lived more than 70 years after the event, the subject of the AfD is not notable for anything outside of the event, and did not receive significant coverage between the event and his death. This is not to disparage the honorable service of the subject, who we should all honor; however, Wikipedia does not allow for each servicemember who has received significant coverage to have their own article. As we have seen multiple times that is not enough to establish notability alone.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 01:34, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
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 * Redirect as above. Yet another Doolittle Raid participant who is not notable in his own right. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:47, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect per Bushranger and RightCow. —  - dain   omite    23:35, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.