Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas G. Shaughnessy


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The result was delete. Anyone may create a redirect if desired. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 04:28, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Thomas G. Shaughnessy

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Thomas G. Shaughnessy is a local politician who I do not believe meets WP:Politician. The municipality itself is in the 40,000-50,000 range. There is nothing about the investigation into his administration that to me breaks the threshold of being more significant than any other local mayor. I will add this article to the deletion streams for Illinois and politicians Mpen320 (talk) 04:05, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom - all we have right now is find a grave, no clear guidance that he's any more notable than that. SportingFlyer  T · C  05:07, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  ~ Amkgp  💬  06:14, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions.  ~ Amkgp  💬  06:14, 29 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete the sourcing here is non-reliable or very local to his location coverage. Beyond that, it is not just that Berwyn is a small location, but that it is totally overshadowed by Chicago. If it was this size in an area where it was the largest city around, we might consider keeping a well sourced article on the mayor, with this many people as one of Chicago's small but densely populated inner suburbs, there is no reason to even consider keeping the article unless we have very, very, very broad amounts of sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:17, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Berwyn, Illinois, fails WP:NPOL and doesn't seem to have done anything particularly notable while in office that would give him an independent pass of GNG. The mayor of a 56k population city needs to be shown to have gotten significant coverage for actually doing something while in (or theoretically out) of office, which Shaughnessy doesn't seem to have done. His obituary in the Chicago Tribune only substantiates that he didn't do anything to be particularly notable. (This should actually probably be redirected to Thomas Shaughnessy, 1st Baron Shaughnessy, who seems to be the primarytopic under the name.) Best, Eddie891 Talk Work 15:59, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete and/or redirect. Berwyn IL is not large enough to instantly clinch the permanent notability of its mayors just because a single obituary can be shown to offer technical verification that they existed — to clear the notability bar, he would have to be referenceable to a significant volume of career coverage. The notability bar for a mayor is not the ability to locate the names of his wife and kids — it is the ability to write and source some genuine substance about his political impact in the mayor's chair: specific projects he spearheaded, significant political successes or failures, significant effects he had on the development of the city, and on and so forth. But that's not what this article is — and if an article has existed for 15 years yet nobody has ever seen fit to get it up to snuff at all, then it's highly unlikely that anybody's ever going to get it up to snuff. Bearcat (talk) 22:40, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete The title mayor does not convey notability. We need WP:RS to support encyclopedic content. A Trib obit and a find-a-grave does not cut it.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:24, 3 July 2020 (UTC)


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