Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas Meyer (political scientist)


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The result was   keep. L Faraone  05:05, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Meyer (political scientist)

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Political scientist who has written a few, reputedly controversial, books but they do not appear to have received massive attention. No independent sources about author. The German version of this article has only one independent source, and that is only a review of one of his books which does not provide significant coverage about the author. Therefore clearly failes WP:Notability. GDallimore (Talk) 11:30, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  -- &mdash;innotata 16:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep: Noted academic and role in SPD, also editor of the journal Neue Gesellschaft/Frankfurter Hefte (NGFH) (New Society/Frankfurt Issues Neue Gesellschaft/Frankfurter Hefte (NGFH) (Msrasnw (talk) 18:32, 10 December 2010 (UTC))
 * I think via his NGFH editorship he meets Wp:Prof 8 The person is or has been an editor-in-chief of a major well-established journal in their subject area. - (Msrasnw (talk) 01:15, 11 December 2010 (UTC))
 * Agreed, IF you can show that the journal is important/well-established. But I see no evidence of that either. I'm easy to persuade with good evidence. GDallimore (Talk) 14:47, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * If one looks here Eugen_Kogon we have brief mention of one of the two journals which were combined to make this one - there is some here and  at the journal itself there is a history section.   The information in these would seem to me evidence of the journal's importance and well established nature. Is this enough? (Msrasnw (talk) 20:59, 11 December 2010 (UTC)) PS I have started a little page on the journal.
 * So? And if he's a "noted academic" it should be easy to find sources noting him. GDallimore (Talk) 19:21, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * A quick look using basic searching on google yields the following which all seem to me indicative of notability. Does this help? "The theory of social democracy developed by Professor Thomas Meyer marks an impressive, thought-provoking advance in the broader theory of democracy." Jürgen Habermas and "Member of the Social Sciences and Humanities Advisory Group of the European Commission and is an individual expert in the EU-NESCA Project." Also at the Friedrich Ebert Foundation site and via Google translate we have "Studied political science, philosophy and German literature in Frankfurt / Main, 1973 Promotion, 1979 Habilitation, Associate Professor of Political Science at the University of Dortmund, Scientific Director of the Academy of Political Education in the Friedrich-Ebert-Stiftung (to October 2007), chief editor of the New Society / Frankfurter Hefte, Deputy Chairman of the Commission's core values of the SPD, since 1990 Chairman of the Faculty of Political Academy, and numerous publications -  Basic Values Commission of the SPD, SPD-SED paper, Historical Commission of the SPD, the new party program, material collections, published by Thomas Meyer" - I have added some more refs and sources to the article. Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 22:28, 10 December 2010 (UTC))
 * It's helpful, but it's pretty weak as Xxanthippe says. A review of a book doesn't give the author significant coverage. Many of the other sources seem to be self-penned biographies or are at least written by his associates/employers so aren't independent sources. My searching didn't find anything better than the weak sources you've now added so I still think it's on the delete side. GDallimore (Talk) 00:56, 11 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak keep on above basis, but more sources (or translations of German ones) would help. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:27, 11 December 2010 (UTC).
 * How is anyone supposed to provide translations of German sources without breaching copyright law? Phil Bridger (talk) 21:45, 13 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. I added the relevant WorldCat Identities link to the article to help with the above issues. Flatterworld (talk) 21:03, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't think WP:PROF #8 applies. Looking at the website of NGFH, it doesn't seem to be a peer-reviewed academic journal. --Crusio (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * This may or may not be helpful . Also, the former name of this publication, now gets some interesting Google hits . I wonder why the magazine (which used to be a theory journal?)  changed its name from FES, because it seems to have wide usage. And here is an Engish Wikipedia article on Friedrich-Ebert-Stiftung.   Steve Quinn (talk) 19:24, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
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