Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas Nelson (supercentenarian)


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The result was Merged and redirected to List of American supercentenarians. Per that article, Mr. Nelson wasn't even the oldest American black person in the US, let alone the world. Bettie Wilson was 116 when she died. The only claim of notability is a three way intersection of age, gender and race. There is not enough here, or available, for a stand-alone article. His brief bio has been incorporated into the list. Resolute 20:18, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Thomas Nelson (supercentenarian)

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Short stub on a man who was very old, which says little else other than that he owned a candy store. Only reference is a 400-word obituary in his local newspaper, which falls well short of WP:BIO. Suggest merger to List of American supercentenarians. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:02, 9 December 2007 (UTC) Keep and Improve Yes, I think being the oldest black man in the world is noteworthy. Seems like this article was nominated due to not enough references/citations. Neal (talk) 21:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC).
 * Weak Keep ... yes, being the oldest black man in the US is notable, however this article may be consigned to the perpetually unverifiable. --Storkk (talk) 15:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC) changing opinion to Merge per nom. Many of these will be perpetually stubs or unverifiable. Although the list needs to be re-formatted (maybe as a table?), if there are only a few verifiable sentences about a person's life, merge seems the best option. --Storkk (talk) 15:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * weak delete or merge with list of super centenarians. Article does not even say he is black. Surely that is a poor claim to notability in growing old. There are almost as many words here as in the article. Victuallers (talk) 11:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * true, I should have said "weak keep if it can actually be at least somewhat established that he was the oldest black man in the world" otherwise merge. Cheers, --Storkk (talk) 14:21, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. Subject is notable, and sourcing is a grounds for editing, not deletion.  Bacchiad (talk) 00:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Reply. Sourcing is the crucial issue in notability: see WP:NOTE and WP:BIO. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge&rarr;List of American supercentenarians as suggested by nominator. I have tightened up the two references.  It would appear (until established otherwise) that Mr. Nelson's notability is based solely on his longevity, which makes merging into an article that addresses longevity the best course of action. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 21:57, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


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