Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas Robins (politician)


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Thomas Robins (politician)

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Non-notable mayor. Several sources, but none of them convey notability under WP:GNG (many are directory listings or sources that are also possibly WP:OR, for instance which year his child passed away) and fails WP:NPOL completely so we can't otherwise assume notability. It also appears there are a number of mayors with articles for this municipality that probably don't pass WP:GNG either. SportingFlyer  talk  06:00, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 06:08, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Connecticut-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 06:08, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


 * WP:HEYMANN, Keep. I did a little expand on this old-time mayor, now sourced from obits in the old New York Herald Tribune and New York Times.  Also added an academic article and a contemporary magazine article about Norwalk's construction of an early municipal electric power plant (a first in the state).  Nom mentions son; although I chose not to add it to article, there was quite a lot of press about the fact that Robbins son (his only child) was murdered, the case drew a fair amount of press at the time.  I do not see how deletion this sort of article helps the project, especially now that it is sourced.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:13, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the research! Unfortunately, I can't access those sources for my own review, and I'm still not certain I would agree they make this mayor notable for reasons other than being a mayor of a relatively small municipality, so I won't withdraw at this time. SportingFlyer  talk  18:31, 6 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. Norwalk is located inside the New York metropolitan area (it's in that little panhandle of Connecticut that pokes into Westchester County), so I'm not convinced that New York City newspapers giving him obituaries upon his death constitutes notability in and of itself. But apart from the obituaries, this is otherwise far too dependent on primary sources, and glancing namechecks of his existence in coverage about other things, to say that he passes WP:GNG — literally the only other source left that escapes both of those disqualifiers is purely WP:ROUTINE verification of an election result in an even more local-to-Norwalk newspaper, which is a kind of source that every mayor in the history of mayoralty could always show. The inclusion test for mayors of smaller cities is not just being able to cite a few sources to verify that they existed — it's being able to cite enough sources to demonstrate that they're significantly more notable than most other mayors of most other smaller cities, but the sourcing here just isn't convincingly doing that. Bearcat (talk) 14:12, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Mayors receive routine coverage; that should be a given. Obituaries in the individual's locality is routine; their election results are, too, routine. Notice the trend? Being verifiable does not grant a politician notability, and these other sources--these passing mentions--do not convince me that GNG or NPOL are satisfied. A heymann can be a positive thing when it isn't little more than window dressing.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 22:28, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


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