Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thornbird


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The result was redirect to Phacellodomus. with an added hatnote to point people toward The Thorn Birds. No masochistic bird text merged anywhere. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 03:46, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Thornbird

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Per WP:PTM, no exact matches. The mythological creature may be notable, but it does not have an article, so describing it is not useful. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:47, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: the mythological bird may be no older than the novel. I've spent a bit of time Googling and can only find copies or paraphrases of McCullough's paragraph about the myth: Mccullough quote and then here and similar! There's a religious thornbird myth too, cropping up just the once, but it's really about the goldfinch. If anyone can find an account of a pre-McCullough thornbird myth, there should be an article. Otherwise, no need for dab page, just redirect to Phacellodomus with a hatnote there to The Thorn Birds (though the hatnote on that latter article is inadequate, needs expansion or a dab page ....!) Pam  D  10:12, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions.   CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   10:43, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:18, 27 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - If it's truly notable, start with an article and then a DAB page. I don't believe it is notable.Glendoremus (talk) 05:23, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Certainly "thornbirds" is a common term to refer to a class of birds.  And The Thorn Birds was a blockbuster novel that was made into a TV series.  I doubt that the novel and genus Phacellodomus are confused for one another very often, but if they are, it can be handled by hatnotes on each page.  As for the self-impaling bird myth, I can find no trace of it in WP:RS, albeit this may because sources on "thornbird" and "thornbirds" are filled with sources about the novel, even when searching with keywords like "myth."  I do, howeve, have a storng suspicion that this page is a sneaky kind of PROMO for youtube videos here: [].  Delete as serving no purpose.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:31, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Phacellodomus as common name for the species (genus really). MB 19:24, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, the term "thornbirds" should be redirected to Phacellodomus (bloodthirsty little buggers,) but not the text about the unsourced myth about suicidal mythological birds.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:41, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * , not sure I follow what you mean. You can't redirect "text", you redirect articles. Thornbirds currently redirects to Thornbird. I propose that both be changed to redirect to Phacellodomus. Singular and plural form to the same place. MB 23:21, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree. Sorry I worded it badly. I meant that the unsourced sentence asserting that there is a myth about a self-impaling thornbird should be deleted.  Not added to Phacellodomus.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:52, 5 May 2017 (UTC)


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