Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thrasher cup (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. JForget 00:07, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Thrasher cup
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Non-notable club hockey tournament held between non-varsity club teams. Its impact is strictly local, and of the handful of Google News hits, all of them have been from school newspapers and the Savannah Morning News. Fails WP:GNG. Article previously deleted through AfD in June 2006, but promptly recreated and somehow fell through the cracks.  RGTraynor  05:46, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment False claim. Coverage in WSAV, WTOC, Savannah Daily News, and WSB in Atlanta. --UgaBullDawgFan08 (talk) 08:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * First link - a local outlet. Second link - a local outlet.  Third link - a local outlet.  Fourth link - a copy of a press release from "ugahockey.com," which fails WP:RS.    RGTraynor  08:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Insufficient grounds for deletion. Largest sporting event of medium sized city annually, with large attendance and media coverage. Just part of the attempted purge of all things club hockey by a few overzealous deletionists.--97.81.16.78 (talk) 06:07, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Can you provide sources that verify this claim? I would say the Savannah State athletics are much more significant then a couple of low-quality club hockey teams.  Grsz 11  06:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment The line "Low quality club hockey teams" is without merit and displays this editor's bias (although we do not know what the source of his bias is). Please cite the objective authority that considers the Savannah Hockey Classic participating teams "low quality" for club hockey, or concede that you made a baseless allegation. --UgaBullDawgFan08 (talk) 07:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Here's one link I found atop google that speaks to the event's popularity: http://www2.wsav.com/sav/news/local/article/changes_to_savannah_hockey_classic/47608/ --UgaBullDawgFan08 (talk) 07:11, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Also try: http://www.savannahchamber.com/councils-sports.php --UgaBullDawgFan08 (talk) 07:19, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: Sorry, no, this doesn't have significant media coverage even in Georgia. Google News hits over the last ten years for "Memorial Health Hockey Classic" from anything other than a campus newspaper - seven.  Google News hits over the last ten years for "Savannah Hockey Classic" - TWO.  This would be paltry coverage even for a high school hockey tournament.    RGTraynor  07:22, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * comment I'd suggest more thorough reserach User:RGTraynor. Searching under the tournament's old title will likely yield few results. Search for the "Savannah Hockey Classic", as Memorial Health hasn't been a sponsor for a couple of years. --UgaBullDawgFan08 (talk) 07:31, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Response: I'd suggest you read my previous comment, where I stated that the G-News archive search for "Savannah Hockey Classic" returned only TWO results. Feel free to review the link for yourself. .   RGTraynor  07:57, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Are you aware of how google news (http://news.google.com) operates? It doesn't archive news articles. It isn't lexisnexis. It only indexes recent news articles, so there's your problem. If you search the Savannah media web sites, you'll find a plethora of articles about this event. Its popularity is only disputed amongst Wikipedia editors that fail to take more than a passing attempt at research. --UgaBullDawgFan08 (talk) 08:04, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I strongly suggest you read my comments through, and following the links might not be a bad idea as well. The comment stated "archive search."  The link above is Google News' archive of news articles on the subject for the calendar year 2009.  A similar search for the years 2000-2009 inclusive  return the same two links, one of which is a mention in a generic calendar of events column that fails WP:RS.    RGTraynor  08:25, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * And I strongly suggest that you learn how Google news works. I can say I searched disney.com for college hockey stories, but if they don't index them, it's not really much of an argument, now is it? --UgaBullDawgFan08 (talk) 08:31, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * UGA: You repeatedly stated that RGT is searching wrong, yet you haven't provided the "correct" means to find references. The burden of proof is on you. ccwaters (talk) 15:02, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't recommend any breath-holding; UGA was (at best) a meatpuppet active for only a 12-hour stretch two days ago brought on to contest several Georgia college hockey related deletions, most of whose arguments revolved around criticizing methodology, policy and guidelines which turned up results of which he didn't approve.   RGTraynor  20:53, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - An event needs more than local coverage to be considered notable. -DJSasso (talk) 14:51, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions.  —DJSasso (talk) 15:07, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete non notable local sporting event involving club hockey teams. No news coverage outside a few mentions in the local press. About par with countless high school basketball holiday tourneys. ccwaters (talk) 14:56, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above. Patken4 (talk) 00:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.