Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thulasi Helen


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The result was no consensus. North America1000 00:37, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Thulasi Helen

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Fails WP:NBOXING as well as WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO.

The News-Minute (which allots the most-significant coverage to the subject) fails being a RS, comprehensively. So is Velivada, Youtube and Samvad Pravesh.

The TOI piece is a blog; which has no editorial oversight.

The piece over Hindu is paid-PR.

The Deccan chronicle piece just regurgitates her words.

There was a film about her but it is equally non-notable per the relevant guideline.

Some trivial (and sparse) routine coverage about her bouts are noted. &#x222F; WBG converse 13:10, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep   per WP:NEXIST .There is coverage about her in the regional language media particularly in the Tamil Language  including the BBC which is biographical
 * BBC Tamil About her discuss her life
 * In Daily Thanthi about her and her life
 * Vikatan about her and
 * Times of India piece will pass WP:GNG have added references .Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:37, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * BBC regional services are a joke/RSN. The TOI piece is sheer fluff (and near-certainly, a PR-effort). As to the rest, regional sources covering a boxer from the state. Fails NBOXING squarely, as she is yet to achieve anything significant. &#x222F; WBG converse 10:29, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Non-notable amateur boxer.  Does not meet WP:NBOX.PRehse (talk) 10:10, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment It is likely that significant coverage in independent sources particularly in the regional media particularly in the Tamil Language in addition to what is there in the article which includes the Daily Thanthi and Vikatan  and her film has been screened worldwide as per this  with reviews like this  "The film’s strongest aspect is its intertwining of Thulasi’s personal and professional struggles, which at times mirror each other and trap Thulasi in a double bind, in a rather seamless way"  and these in 1 and 2 in  Norwegian language   The subject passes WP:GNG even if she fails WP:NBOX.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:30, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment, editors need to remember words from the lead of WP:NSPORT: "Please note that the failure to meet these criteria does not mean an article must be deleted; conversely, ...", so as we appear to accept that Helen does not meet WP:NBOX, the question remains, does she meet WP:GNG to warrant an article? just saying. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:47, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets WP:GNG, with the news coverage in the article and the documentary about her. (That does not have to be notable in itself to constitute significant coverage, just as news articles don't need to be notable to be significant coverage.) RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:28, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DannyS712 (talk) 00:52, 21 February 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~SS49~   {talk}  00:59, 28 February 2019 (UTC)


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