Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thunder Collins


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Tim Song (talk) 00:52, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Thunder Collins

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Onetime college football player who never made the pros and fails WP:ATHLETE. Only other potential claim to notability is murder conviction in apparent drug-related incident, but that fails under NOTNEWS. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 17:17, 14 November 2009 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 00:15, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
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 * Keep He briefly played with the Montreal Alouettes of the CFL--that's enough to pass WP:ATHLETE. Blueboy96 06:23, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
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 * Delete Per failing WP:NOTNEWS. I'm not sure he fails WP:ATH however since the source doesn't specify whether or not he actually played (which would be necessary for him to pass WP:ATH). If a source is brought forward that shows he passes WP:ATH, consider my position to be keep.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 19:47, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I found it hard to believe it would even be mentioned that he played for the Alouettes unless he played a down for them--but just in case, I found a source saying he did play for them here. If my French is accurate, it says, "He played one game for the Alouettes in 2003." Blueboy96 21:10, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Now switching to keep per source brought forward by Blueboy.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 03:07, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak delete. Judging the spirit of WP:ATHLETE, I think he fails. He wasn't notable as a football player and he isn't notable as a criminal. (Criminal charges prior to the murder here: ). The two together give him a fair amount of uninteresting news coverage. Location (talk) 00:39, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep If he played a professional game, he passes WP:ATHLETE. He played a game with the Alouettes, so he's notable. Tavix | Talk  11:39, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep: He played with the Alouettes, so he's notable and a murderer - Ret.Prof (talk) 16:06, 25 November 2009 (UTC) PS that did not come out right, but you know what I mean.
 * Comment. Assuming the accuracy of the Alouettes report, the article should be kept. Neither the text of the article when nominated nor any of the original sources indicated that he had any professional experience (including a local press report, which typically covers a local subject most completely -- though apparently not in this case.) Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 16:21, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Played in one game professionally, so he passes WP:ATH.  Eagles   24/7   (C)  21:29, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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