Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TianQing Clay Teapot


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Yixing clay teapot. However, an actual merge is not needed because the creator has already done so here, though some cleanup of the merge is needed. (non-admin closure) ~ Aseleste  (t, e &#124; c, l) 04:11, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

TianQing Clay Teapot

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Dubious sourcing for this topic. A lone book (about which I can find very little), and then some unclear website which repeats the book and then makes unverifiable claims. Can perhaps be draftified if people see potential in this. Fram (talk) 16:39, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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 * I see some additional sourcing online (the second one is paywalled). A more thorough search would probably turn up more. Not sure if it's better as its own article or if it should be merged to Yixing clay teapot. If kept, it should be moved to standard capitalization Tianqing clay teapot. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 17:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I am looking at the sources through Google Translate, so bear with me please. The first one,, doesn't seem to mention TianQing (while e.g. Yixing is mentioned 11 times)? I see that "天青泥" is mentioned two times though. And once in the second source, it gets translated by "azure mud" instead of it being treated as a proper name. A merge may be the best solution, as it seems to be a minor aspect or subtopic of the Yixing one. Fram (talk) 17:18, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I imagine Google Translate is having trouble with some of the terminology, as most of the relevant characters have other more common meanings, but 天青泥 is Tianqing clay in this context. The first source mentions Tianqing clay briefly (as one of several types of clay used to make Yixing clay teapots); I'm not sure how much detail the second source goes into because I can only see the abstract. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 18:17, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * not sure how to change the capitalization of the Title. Feel free to do so of course. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gw2100 (talk • contribs) 23:08, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


 * There is so much confusion and misinformation about this topic. That's the reason I started this entry.  I plan to add images later.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gw2100 (talk • contribs) 19:15, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


 * there is an online version of the book by ZHOU Gaoqi of Ming dynasty where Tianqing clay was first mentioned in history. Here is the URL http://reader.epubee.com/books/mobile/d8/d880b7dc21347fb8cafda49bf48bbc1e/text00004.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gw2100 (talk • contribs) 19:31, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Here is what the original text in Chinese 摘自《阳羡茗壶系》: "天青泥，出蠡墅，陶之变黯肝色. 又其夹支有梨皮泥，陶现梨冻色；淡红泥，陶现松花色；浅黄泥，陶现豆碧色；密泥，陶现轻赭色；梨皮和白砂，陶现淡墨色. 山灵腠络，陶冶变化，尚露种种光怪云. " — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gw2100 (talk • contribs) 19:45, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to Yixing clay teapot. That adds little to that article.  I find it very hard to comment on an article that contains a lot of Chinese.  We seem to have conflict over the correct transliteration of the name.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:22, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Here is a page of the teapot showing purple areas which fits well with "it shows a bizarre effect after firing" from the Original ZHOU Gaoqi book of the Ming dynasty.  Maybe he got something.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gw2100 (talk • contribs) 01:48, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to Yixing clay teapot. The article doesn't have SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for its own article, but the sourced content here will benefit the target article. If in the future more sources are found, which I think may be possible, the article can be restored from the history, or it can continue to be expanded at the target. I'd be happy to change my !vote to Keep if SIGCOV can be found to justify a stand alone article, or if an editor wishes the article moved to Drafts or userspace to give them time to work on it, I would support this.  // Timothy :: talk  05:26, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Added 3 images files which might affect opinions? Not to bribe you with good words: I am thrilled with the dedication of the team.  No wonder wikipedia has such a good reputation! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gw2100 (talk • contribs) 16:38, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * It appears the consensus here is to merge to the main article. I will do that next.  Done merging. Thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gw2100 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 17 March 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.