Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tibor Gaal de Hatvan


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The result was delete. Michig (talk) 07:56, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Tibor Gaal de Hatvan

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No clear notability (not even an article in Croatian), unsourced biography, poor article quality (unsubstantiated claims) Noahhoward (talk) 03:38, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
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 * He did exist, and was indeed the acting governor of Fiume several times (see hu:Fiume_kormányzóinak_listája, Gaál Tibor), but can't find out much more about him. – Alensha   talk  14:29, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. While importance actually is asserted ("can be considered as the single most important person at the gubernium in Fiume in the period 1896-1906"), it is not substantiated in any way (i.e. how and why). I'd imagine this bio could not pass WP:GNG - at any rate, there is no evidence it passes now, because there are no sources - and the same could be true for most listed in List of governors and heads of state of Fiume (which is what lists are for, anyway). I'd be, of course, more than willing to change my position here if sources should be found. GregorB (talk) 14:06, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, without prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody with good access to archival Italian or Croatian sources (books, old media reportage from his own era, etc.) can do better than this. There is a potentially valid notability claim here, but it isn't one that's "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be referenced properly. Wikipedia's notability criteria are not passed by what the article says, they're passed by how well the article references what it says to reliable sources. Bearcat (talk) 18:08, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak delete Unsourced BLP?!? I can only find directory listings of him - note Fiume was more heavily Italian during this time frame than Croatian. SportingFlyer  talk  00:53, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete This is of course not a BLP, since the subject has been dead for over 100 years. Still the article has been unsourced for at least 10 years.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:41, 4 January 2019 (UTC)


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