Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tich Saund


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 18:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Tich Saund

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Preliminary Google searches for both the |facebook|wikipedia|imdb)&hl=en&safe=off&start=0&sa=N nickname and |facebook|wikipedia|imdb)&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi= full name reveal nothing from any possibly reliable sources about this actor, and Google news, books, and scholar searches come up equally empty. lifebaka++ 21:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I too could find no evidence that allows subject to meet WP:BIO.-- Paste Let’s have a chat. 21:59, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * "Keep" Just because Tich is at the early stages of his career which has already showed much innovation, the internet has not yet caught up with his work so far. I found lots of evidence that shows he is an actor on the (internet movie database) And myself and many other other students have read his work and seen his movies but these are not listed as of yet, but a wikipedia article on this man, will and can only start off more debates and more internet coverage. He has affected people locally to him and in time will affect a wider world wide audience too. * Keep —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tajindersaund (talk • contribs) 06:40, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: per Paste. Wikipedia is not a Crystal Ball and existing on IMDB does not make someone notable.  When Tich is covered in more independent articles, he can be added.--TParis00ap (talk) 17:46, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I wouldn't want to upset anyone and certainly understand and appreciate your views as Tich is currently unknown to those that are not in the industry. But it's like a teacher that everyone is fond of or a local police officer who the whole community respects. These people deserve recognition in some way, and if it's a simple article in Wiki then that's something. And I know that many people will add their thoughts once they know it's here. I won't contest your disapproval anymore and if you still feel he means nothing to you and not worthy of a mention then so be it. I accept your decision. It's just such a shame that local heros seem so worthless in todays society. *Keep: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tajindersaund (talk • contribs) 19:30, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You're only supposed to leave a single delete/keep opinion, so I've stricken that part of your comment above. To respond to your points, we at Wikipedia, unfortunately, require that the subject of an article be written about, to show that the subject is somehow notable (note that "notable", in our jargon, has a different meaning than the English word).  This is because Wikipedia strives to be an encyclopedia rather than a news source, and the job of an encyclopedia is to summarize what others have already stated rather than to make claims on its own.  There doesn't appear to be any sort of meaningful coverage about Mr. Saund, so, while you are correct that many local heroes really should be covered better than many are, Wikipedia isn't the proper place to seek such coverage.  I hope this helps you understand the concerns about this article.  Cheers.  lifebaka++ 20:14, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm really sorry you feel you need to follow every rule in the book. So well done you win, congratulations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tajindersaund (talk • contribs) 20:38, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you feel that way Tajindersaund, but the rules keep Wikipedia clean. I really hope you can learn to appreciate the guidelines, but please don't make personal attacks in the meantime.  Remember that we are all trying to participate in good faith.  Since you can only have 1 Keep or Delete vote, I've striked through 2 of your KEEP votes.  Please read through Wiki guidelines so you can better understand how to contribute.  I see someone has already post a Welcome message on your page, it has a lot of great links.  I think you can be an excellent contributor if you were familar with the rules.--TParis00ap (talk) 22:23, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

PLEASE KEEP IT PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tajindersaund (talk • contribs) 09:57, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  01:30, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete The sole keep !vote does an excellent job of showing the non-notability of the subject. Edward321 (talk) 14:26, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:BIO. Favonian (talk) 19:21, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * "Keep" I've been reading these opinions and actually know this person, as in "Tich Saund". I've worked with him on many projects and although surprised that he has only now made it to wikipedia would like to say that the reason he is relatively unknown is because Tich is of Indian origin and probably would not be as popular as a White Caucasian professional in the same industry. The names of actors he is friends with have all great articles written about them and surprise surprise they are all white. I'm White Caucasian myself so I am not generalizing or being discriminative, just stating a fact. Nonetheless he is worthy or recognition as he has worked so hard for ethnic minority youth and also produced some brilliant written work, which would not be listed on the internet, why would it? I say keep this guy he's a influential chap. Good luck to him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotelhappy (talk • contribs) 01:27, 24 August 2009 (UTC)  — Hotelhappy (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete - Does not meet notability for entertainers in WP:BIO. He has had minor roles but nothing major (yet).  He may be popular and influential but we need reliable sources stating this to establish his notability.  Narthring (talk  • contribs) 03:30, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I suspect now that wikipedia consists of a very small, close-nit, contributory group of people that gang-up on perfectly valid articles and perfectly valid contributions. This word DELETE or KEEP or SUPERKEEP, I mean come on????? who thought of that lame idea??? Does it really matter that every point within the "notability" bracket isn't quite justified. He is of interest to us and shouldn't be picked on because his fame isn't overly extensive or he hasn't reached every social website. I could pick, let me see..... "millions and millions" of articles that mean absolutely nothing to me and will be of no interest to myself, my friends or my family. This article is a simple point of reference, and should be seen as that. A single solitary page in a vast array of information. As he produces more work his article will obviously grow as the contributor pointed out earlier. But as of now I feel Tich has worked hard enough in his career so far to be worthy of his own first seed page. That's my opinion and I'm sure you'll figure out some ridiculous reason not to have it amongst your little old school gang, you contributors that probably got picked on at school and feel it's their right to now punish the world of internet researchers by acting on old age censorship. And God help me if any of your returns imply that I'm being sarcastic or picking on the professional process wikipedia follows. Let it be known I value this website but it's so obvious we should be more flexible and compromising in our approach to reunite humanity and it's scholars. LET IT STAY!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotelhappy (talk • contribs) 09:17, 24 August 2009 (UTC) — Hotelhappy (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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