Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tiffany Patterson (choreographer)


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:18, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Tiffany Patterson (choreographer)

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Non-notable choreographer. Appears to fail WP:BIO, WP:CREATIVE, and WP:NACTOR. Article lacks verifable, independent references. Of the 10 references only 3 mention the article subject and each of those mentions are trivial. red dog six (talk) 15:12, 13 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Contesting nomination. There is a solid Washington Post reference that clearly identifies the subject, her title (and recognition) in the entertainment industry, an association of importance (relationship to a world renowned rapper) and a photograph of her:


 * http://www.washingtonpost.com/postlive/michelle-kwan-sam-kass-and-an-ex-surgeon-general-my-worst-eating-habits-as-a-kid/2013/09/26/93499ce4-26be-11e3-ad0d-b7c8d2a594b9_gallery.html#photo=15


 * The Washington Post is a reputable publication...and distinguishes the subject as a person of importance in its subcaption: "We asked athletes, mayors, public health professionals and others for one food vice they had as a child — and how they managed to beat it." This demonstrates that the feedback sought from select program presenters was valued and respected at a broad and global level. It is further asserted that the subject is an important, newsworthy figure by Washington Post standards; has been featured multiple times in notable mainstream media; and has various photographic citations that are completely verifiable.Scriptly (talk) 15:53, 13 October 2013 (UTC)Scriptly (talk) 15:32, 13 October 2013 (UTC)Scriptly (talk) 15:51, 13 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete for the reasons outlined by the nominator. There is very little at all about her online. The Washington Post quote is a brief eating advice tip by Patterson, so is not substantially about her and not counting towards her notability. Appearing near a famous person doesn't count towards notability either. Sionk (talk) 16:49, 13 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment - Response to Sionk:


 * 1. The Washington Post article is meant to encourage healthy eating habits to children afflicted by obesity. It uses well known individuals and celebrities to send out a message of healthy eating practices in much the same way public service announcements draw on celebrities to get out a particular message.
 * 2. The Wikipedia article, written by Scriptly, does not merely speak to a subject "appearing near a famous person" -- what it establishes is a lengthy history of a choreographer's professional contributions to another (more well known) artist. The subject, in the majority of the citations, is performing alongside Hammer (not simply appearing near him). If you look at the 2012 American Music Awards photo and video, as well as the Dick Clark's Rockin' Eve photo and video, it is clear that she is actively engaged in a highly visible, professional dance routine with both Hammer and Psy. It is not difficult to pick her out. The reason is because she is prominently displayed and is a major contributor:


 * http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130101/times-square-theater-district/gangnam-style-star-psy-joins-rap-icon-hammer-at-new-years-times-sq/


 * The Grand Finale in the 2012 American Music Awards was heralded as the highlight of the evening. The showmanship demonstrated by Tiffany Patterson is remarkable and noteworthy.


 * This clarification is not meant to appear negative or argumentative, what is hoped is that the collective body of references can be viewed in totality -- each lending to a more expansive understanding of the subject. Scriptly (talk) 18:10, 13 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment - #1. I don't even see any reference to the article subject in the reference. It matter not what the intent of the article, but if the article was mentioned in  a non-trivial form.  The article has to be supported by non-trivial references.  Per WP:BASIC, "...trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability." #2 The article may have attempted to establish the individual's contribution, but there are no references to support the contribution.  As far as performing with Hammer, notability is not inherited from someone else - the subject's notability has to be able to stand on its own merits.  There is no substantial body of work to support notability.  red dog six  (talk) 18:23, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. Can't keep this. No references that are focused on her. The Washington Post article lists her alongside some notables and some non-notables; in the latter category is a 17-year-old student. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:28, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
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